Grim: "We've been playing our best CS since we made the team"

Complexity travel to Malta after a short break from top-tier competition and are eager to show the gains they made while away from the limelight.

"I expect a better Complexity here," Grim says of his team at their first outing since Cologne

Complexity left IEM Cologne at the play-in stage, taking the first exit ramp after two straight losses to fnatic and OG. The week before, they had been eliminated from the BLAST Premier Fall Groups. They returned home without showing much for themselves in their European tour, but that's when the work started in earnest.

Michael "⁠Grim⁠" Wince and company made it through two qualifiers upon their arrival on North American soil, earning spots at IEM Sydney and the Thunderpick World Championship, and flexed their status as kings of the region while trying to settle Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski into the team.

Their return to Europe was marked by a two-week bootcamp at the Kinguin facility in Poland to get ready for ESL Pro League Season 18's Group C. "That bootcamp was really nice, I think we've been playing our best CS since we made the team," Grim explains from the tournament's media day in Malta. "So I'm really happy with how that bootcamp went and I'm excited to see if we can show that here in the matches."

Natus Vincere's Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy said it was at Pro League that his team should be judged after making substantial changes, and not before then. Could the same be said for Complexity, even though their changes were minimal in comparison?

"For us, even just adding one new player, and especially someone like EliGE who knows a lot about the game and has a lot of stuff to bring, it's going to take a while to implement and add new concepts that we didn't have before," Grim says. "Everyone is getting used to it, getting on the same page, and learning how EliGE wants to play and what he likes to do."

EliGE and his teammates understand each other better after more time practicing together

Complexity was just not as ready as they needed to be at IEM Cologne and it showed. Now they hope that having had nearly two months without a Big Event match and 20 days without an official, their time running scrimmages in both North America and Europe will pay off against the top teams.

"Back in NA and now during the bootcamp we had the time to add the new stuff that needed to be talked about," Grim explains. "We got to a point in which we weren't adding too much new crazy stuff, we were just trying to get used to the stuff we already had and made sure everyone is comfortable with it. That has been really nice for us and I think we're really ready now."

For years North America has had the negative stigma of being a region with poor practice. Over and over, teams have complained about how hard it is to make progress there, to the point that Liquid have put their sights on a permanent move to Europe. Grim, up to a certain point, disagrees.

"I'd say that North America wasn't the worst. There were a lot of teams giving us decent practice, like M80, EG, Wildcard, all of those teams. Nouns, even," the 22-year-old says. "But when you come to Europe, you definitely notice your mistakes more because people punish gaps that you leave open and don't really know about. So yeah, you definitely learn a lot more in Europe, but I don't want to discredit North American practice. I think it was actually pretty good and not a waste of time by any means. We learned a lot there and improved a lot there, as well."

Time spent bootcamping in Poland helped Complexity find some of those gaps. The majority-American side went to the Kinguin Esports Performance Center in Warsaw, where their first EPL rivals, 9INE, were also honing their skills. "I didn't want to leak any strats there, I was trying to be quiet," Grim jokes, "but yeah, they're a decent team and we can't be underestimating them. We'll just go into it the way we were playing the scrims in the bootcamp and I'm confident that we can win.

"There weren't any mindgames or anything, we were on the opposite side of the bootcamp, so I don't think they heard anything, and we didn't hear anything, but it is funny that we were at the same place."

ESL Pro League, with its triple-elimination bracket and playoff berths for half of the teams in each group, can be a great confidence booster for teams reaching a Big Event playoff. But it can also force teams to dig deep and perhaps even past their preparations. "It's a really important event for Complexity and us as a team to see where we're at going into the next events," Grim says. "Having three losses you really get to show your whole playbook."

Complexity are now on a quest to fulfill their potential. "We were doing a good job of getting matches over the line at the beginning of the year, but a weakness was also letting teams make comebacks against us," Grim says. "That was really an experience thing and we didn't really have a deep enough playbook to handle some of those comebacks, and it was also a mental thing."

Now, with confidence from dominating their home region and a bootcamp to get up to speed with European squads, Complexity have had the time to iron out kinks and focus on their game. "We've been playing better as a team," Grim says, "making sure you're doing stuff with a teammate at all times, that has helped elevate our game. I'd say that I expect a better Complexity here. We've been playing pretty well in scrims, so as long as we can bring it into the matches just expect more from us."

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1783
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
United States Michael 'Grim' Wince
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1074
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.69
9ine 2-0
2023-09-19 19:51
4 replies
Nt grim
2023-09-20 04:06
+1 i dont want to discredit north american practice, but average eu team would shit on us every time
2023-09-20 10:55
2 replies
Yeah like c9
2023-09-23 14:55
1 reply
c9 is eu and yes its garbage too
2023-09-23 15:20
#2
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Argentina _mat1
XD
2023-09-19 19:51
0-3 or 1-3 record m8, sorry. Only reason I say 1-3 is because Eternal Failure and Liquid are there.
2023-09-19 19:52
13 replies
Eternal fire is underrated lol
2023-09-19 19:53
10 replies
ppl are saying it will go 0-3 or 1-3 so its well-rated lol
2023-09-19 20:00
8 replies
EF will qualify over VP, they are better firepower and brainwise G2, Cloud9, 9ine and EF will qualify
2023-09-19 20:22
7 replies
nice fake flagger
2023-09-19 20:23
least delusional turk have spoken
2023-09-19 20:23
2 replies
the thing is iam not fakeflagger and not turk xD. That LAN in Serbia was irrelevant tho, imagine you are the only foreign team among 7 russian teams, u would like to lose asap. EF > VP
2023-09-19 20:25
1 reply
will see in a couple of days ;)
2023-09-19 20:34
EF have xantares VP have the best russian rifling core together with C9 in conclusion, EF > VP
2023-09-19 21:44
2 replies
fame, fl1t and who? mir? they are as inconsistent as k0nfig, rez and brollan.
2023-09-19 21:53
1 reply
VP > Eternal Xan1v9
2023-09-19 23:22
People know their ceiling, but people also know their inconsistent as hell. Who knows maybe this roster is the one.
2023-09-19 20:45
space soldiers will destroy this trash team only elige is decent
2023-09-20 15:33
fake flag
2023-09-23 14:51
LMAO, the Complexity peak was in Katowice
2023-09-19 19:52
I want whatever he’s on
2023-09-19 19:56
Will go out in last place
2023-09-19 19:59
Grim called it. Don't say after you hadn't been warned
2023-09-19 20:00
#10
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Europe Klobby
classic jinx
2023-09-19 20:08
could beat 9ine tbh
2023-09-19 20:12
5 replies
if 9INE can stop being Vertigo one-tricks then nah.
2023-09-19 20:14
4 replies
well TL prob wont win, so NA has to do something this event
2023-09-19 20:17
#22
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Poland Ryunar
If they lose it's not gonna be because of map pool this time but because 9INE just spent a whole night at airport lol. Ancient was looking good
2023-09-19 20:38
#34
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Poland Hellp3r
Nothing stops other teams to perfect a map for themselfs.
2023-09-19 23:55
coL win ancient 9INE win vertigo if coL get a good map on the decider they can win
2023-09-20 03:05
gl king, will be tuning into every coL match i can
2023-09-19 20:14
#15
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United Kingdom jenko_
Not hard lol
2023-09-19 20:18
#16
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Poland Julka
I hope that they won't show up
2023-09-19 20:21
#24
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North America Karismaaa
This whole group is so fucking easy for Baldlige
2023-09-19 21:03
Who
2023-09-19 21:44
I remember someone in coL said, "We are beating EVERYONE in praccs. Even Na`Vi" and then proceeded to bomb out in last place lmao SSDD
2023-09-19 21:45
I hear the same shit over and over again
2023-09-19 22:03
let's go boys
2023-09-19 22:51
should be easy for elige!
2023-09-19 23:18
complexity about to be humbled by 9ine
2023-09-19 23:36
#35
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Armenia VirtusNo
ur still shite bro
2023-09-20 02:36
Against random faceit stacks?
2023-09-20 03:58
if this was ur best cs then im moroccan niko
2023-09-20 04:00
1 reply
#41
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Slovakia GloryMole
Nikola Abdul
2023-09-20 08:42
against t2 NA, mb play ur best cs against t1 EU can't wait for leggslapper hallzerk
2023-09-20 04:58
#42
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Greece her-1g
lets go coL been a fan since 2004. We will achieve the past glory sometime again
2023-09-20 10:06
they always say the same yet they never show it free 2-0 9ine
2023-09-20 10:38
its like reading the post "who are m80?", thinking this team might show something good, and after watching some cs with them, realizing that is the worst dogshit team ever with absolutely 0 gamesense
2023-09-20 11:00
2 replies
#47
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Poland KamilAmrah
What do you expect from HLTV? They only post shit about praising all teams, there is no bad teams for them, everyone is absolutely amazing and you can't say a single bad word about any team nor player
2023-09-20 20:07
1 reply
true, people sometimes so afraid to tell the truth its annoying
2023-09-20 20:26
you are better off staying in na
2023-09-20 23:43
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