Media: Liquid bench Rainwaker, to use daps as IGL in BLAST Showdown

Liquid are evaluating their options after a difficult start to life for their European roster.

Rainwaker has been benched for BLAST Showdown but the report indicates he still might return to the starting five

Aleks "⁠Rainwaker⁠" Petrov has been temporarily benched by Liquid ahead of their participation in the rest of the world BLAST Fall Showdown, according to a report from Dust2.us. Rainwaker's removal was first reported by Alexey "⁠OverDrive⁠" Birukov on his VK profile.

Coach Damian "⁠daps⁠" Steele will replace him in the server and take over in-game leadership from Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis for the tournament to restore a North American core. However, the report states that this might not be a final decision as Liquid evaluates its options and role configuration within the team.

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The news arrives after a string of poor results for Liquid, including a group stage exit at ESL Pro League and not even qualifying for IEM Cologne's main event.

Rainwaker has been their lowest-rated performer in that period with a 0.96 rating. He does occupy difficult anchor roles he inherited from Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella but it is on T side that he has truly struggled, with just a 0.86 rating in what should have been more comfortable lurking roles.

His benching might spell good news for Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic, who can now occupy T side lurker roles he gave to Rainwaker after joking that his "roles get swapped around like a hot potato" on Liquid.

The move also means the end of YEKINDAR's in-game leadership just five months after he took the reins during the BLAST.tv Paris Major. daps comes in as the new captain having not played since April 2022.

The first test for the side will be a match against former-IGL Peter "⁠stanislaw⁠" Jarguz and Forsaken in the first round of the aforementioned BLAST Showdown.

Liquid will reportedly play Showdown with:

Canada Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic
Canada Damian "⁠daps⁠" Steele
United States Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm
Latvia Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis
Russia Robert "⁠Patsi⁠" Isyanov

Date Matches
BLAST Premier Fall Showdown 2023 Americas
05/10/2023
21:10
Match
Russia Alexey 'OverDrive' Birukov
Alexey 'OverDrive' Birukov
Age:
37
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.68
Maps played:
133
KPR:
0.46
DPR:
0.73
United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1279
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1541
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1749
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
Russia Robert 'Patsi' Isyanov
Robert 'Patsi' Isyanov
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
649
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
Bulgaria Aleks 'Rainwaker' Petrov
Aleks 'Rainwaker' Petrov
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1440
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Canada Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1459
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.66
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1279
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
#1
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Brazil MIBR_IS_BAD
wtf
2023-10-01 20:40
27 replies
W move
2023-10-01 20:42
9 replies
this is 100% only to be in blast na showdown. they know they have way better chances there
2023-10-02 02:23
8 replies
#165
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United States Festive_
They were slotted into the NA showdown months ago and they tried to switch to EU because of travel reasons but they were denied because they didn’t switch early enough in the season. Not at all related.
2023-10-02 03:43
1 reply
classic NA move
2023-10-02 18:15
They didn't want to be there in the first place, they wanted to go EU
2023-10-02 06:15
#202
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Brazil Necro_Spa
they would be participating with EU majority anyway, Blast explained the situation when announcing the confirmed team for the event
2023-10-02 13:47
4 replies
they arent eu majority now???
2023-10-02 15:06
3 replies
#212
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United States MrNorwood
With Rainwaker out and Daps in they do not have an European majority, no.
2023-10-02 15:21
2 replies
yes i know. the brazilian said somethung elese though
2023-10-02 22:11
1 reply
#232
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United States MrNorwood
He's correct though, the core is irrelevant. BLAST was going to make them play in NA regardless.
2023-10-03 02:04
this is actually exactly what i wanted finally no yekindar IGL daps can't frag that much worse than rainwaker
2023-10-01 20:51
14 replies
you will see that he can frag worse
2023-10-01 20:55
We saw how it went for Gen.G
2023-10-01 21:01
9 replies
they won the last csgo lan (anaheim) and also won 2 online tournaments with gen.g its just half the players lost motivation and s0m went to valorant so online CS killed that team
2023-10-01 21:12
4 replies
Daps was trash for most of that team timespan. He's not the solution liquid needs and likely won't do better than having Yekindar IGL with Rainwalker in there. He might only mask that because Blast will be an NA event. And yet, it was about fragging, where someone is seriously implying Daps will do better than Rainwalker, lmao.
2023-10-01 22:47
3 replies
i wasnt implying he'd do better i said he couldn't be that much worse he's not gonna be nearly as sharp as a young player like him who constantly played officials before liquid but it's still CS at the end of the day and daps was also grinding to play instead of patsi before EPL
2023-10-01 22:50
But Yekindar will now be able to fully focus on fragging instead, could be a net win overall.
2023-10-02 00:41
Sure daps is hooxi level bad with mechanical skill but he has built t1 teams before. Optic and Nrg were his creations. He was snaked out of them but snakeislaw and bot tarik but it was his leadership that put them up there. I would put much more faith in him than botkindar.
2023-10-03 15:09
Because gen.g had a crazy awper and excwpt auti, they had so many good players . Also, automatic was awping.
2023-10-01 21:15
3 replies
He was trash at aiming, that has nothing to do with how other players are.
2023-10-01 22:46
no, bc BnTeT play in gen.g
2023-10-02 08:51
1 reply
bntet is/was a good player, but he is more like a leader type. On extremum, he was supposed to be the star rifler ..
2023-10-02 12:58
If they get a NA player, they will be back to being considered an NA team? They can pick Gla1ve maybe? I think he is available. Or maybe stay with Yekindar as IGL and get xyp.
2023-10-02 01:06
1 reply
both glaive and xypex have not shown any promising results so that might as well be a downgrade for liquid
2023-10-02 02:24
Actually he used to be one of the worst IGL fraguarse in NA......IN NA!!!!!
2023-10-02 06:16
expected
2023-10-02 01:46
bulgarian matchfixer without radar = 0.8 rating enjoyer wcyd :)
2023-10-02 03:40
wow
2023-10-01 20:41
LETS GO!! But sad for Aleks.
2023-10-01 20:41
#4
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Scotland void0169
true american roster now ;)
2023-10-01 20:41
1 reply
Back to NA))
2023-10-02 02:18
3 months and he's already out LULZ Good riddance. That's one decoy out.
2023-10-01 20:41
Very bad move from Liquid, rainwaker didnt have proper time to adapt.
2023-10-01 20:46
11 replies
It's the right move in the context of removing Yekindar from IGL and giving lurk back to Naf. It's bad in that -rainwaker +daps isn't likely to fix the problem, so they need a more permanent solution. If they try to get neaLaN I'll give up on this team.
2023-10-01 21:11
9 replies
if you want yekindar off from igl role and dont want nealan then who would get as igl?
2023-10-01 21:15
7 replies
Nealan is probably the best igl available. Boombl4 is kinda similar but he plays agressive roles. Edit : nealan too thought
2023-10-01 21:17
4 replies
i dont think nealan, yekindar and patsi gonna work out in the same team, nealan is quite agressive player on ct side
2023-10-01 21:21
3 replies
#73
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Canada K1nGoldY
Everything has fixed itself now just need to get coach as steel
2023-10-01 21:24
2 replies
steel? Then liquid will be as clueless as m80 i am afarid with valorant coach who missed, like what, 3 years of cs go?
2023-10-01 21:25
1 reply
#79
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Canada K1nGoldY
M80 did good though for their first tier 1 lan as a team
2023-10-01 21:28
To be honest I don't know, but neaLaN has 0 confidence from me as an IGL given his showings in his past 2 teams. That's the rub, Liquid should've never let Yekindar be IGL, and they missed the window to find someone else who could've filled the role properly. We all knew Yekindar shouldn't be IGL.
2023-10-01 21:24
1 reply
#154
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Czech Republic HPILLED
i dont think nealan has exactly been given good tools to make any team work, not a soul can fix EG and he was put into an unenviable position in GL where they lost their best rifler and their IGL (who then went on to win the second tournament attended with his team). from what i have seen from him i dont particularly hate his calling, but hes not the kind of player/igl that could fix a dysfunctional team
2023-10-02 02:11
+1
2023-10-01 22:40
He was dogshit
2023-10-01 21:32
#7
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China Jimmyzera
expected xD
2023-10-01 20:41
lul
2023-10-01 20:41
#10
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United States hinami
That didn't last long
2023-10-01 20:41
already
2023-10-01 20:41
daps is canadian btw
2023-10-01 20:42
6 replies
Are you saying this because of the mention of an NA core, or did they have the wrong flag? If it's the first, Canada is part of North America.
2023-10-01 21:10
5 replies
they fixed his flag in the article,it was wrong
2023-10-01 21:56
1 reply
Gotcha. That's what I figured but it's weird how people get the NA thing wrong here sometimes.
2023-10-02 00:28
daps is bulgarian with macedonian greek
2023-10-01 21:59
2 replies
What flag is that again?
2023-10-02 00:28
1 reply
I was don't know this details but i will say with confidance it was south korean
2023-10-02 10:33
+stewie
2023-10-01 20:42
8 replies
#36
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United States 1Tuurtle
Actually possible since they wanted him to sub in for epl when it looked like Patsi wouldn’t make it
2023-10-01 20:52
7 replies
I think they might go for neaLaN instead since he's an IGL and he's out of GL Stewie can do everything except IGL.
2023-10-01 21:02
6 replies
idk why they'd get nealan tbh too much risk
2023-10-01 22:02
#106
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United States 1Tuurtle
Stew does have experience calling even if he isnt great at it. Nealan might be a better caller but him getting kicked so quickly from GL plus his abysmal individual form makes me doubt anyone signs him
2023-10-01 22:38
4 replies
in an era where IGLs are holding higher value more than ever due to a lack of them, neaLaN still has alot of worth towards him, even if he's getting kicked so quickly.
2023-10-01 22:40
Stewie IGLing Yekindar would make for the single funniest train wreck of a team ever. Yekindar with his giga EU ego saviour complex being told what to do by the smoke criminal 80iq schoolyard fight loser NA's worst hope sounds like a mid timeout bare knuckle boxing match waiting to happen
2023-10-02 00:23
2 replies
#150
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United States 1Tuurtle
Would make liquid matches way more entertaining than now
2023-10-02 01:22
Ahahah
2023-10-02 07:56
#15
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Europe kuu1
Is it because he is from Bulgaria?!
2023-10-01 20:42
3 replies
XD
2023-10-01 22:04
yeah, obvious 322
2023-10-01 22:12
#105
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Puerto Rico Huey_Long
+1111111111
2023-10-01 22:24
#16
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Finland Zikii
daps vs stanislaw lets go
2023-10-01 20:43
#17
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Slovakia xaboff
NA LIQUID IS BACK it's joeover for everyone else
2023-10-01 20:43
bro plays like naf, too passive
2023-10-01 20:43
RIP Goatwaker
2023-10-01 20:44
Liquid clownfiesta, they bring in an unexpected guy from t2 europe to not give him even 4 months on the team, basically one of the worst org management on the scene.
2023-10-01 20:44
1 reply
yeah naf was calling out eg management for being one of the worst, but what is liqud doing
2023-10-01 20:47
I told you all before they signed him officially that he is a bot. Why orgs waste money so hard?
2023-10-01 20:44
1 reply
#94
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Poland NaKii
Atleast he has some LAN experience so he can actually become the solid tier 2/3 player that he always been
2023-10-01 21:58
back to bubble and the rest of the bulgarian matchfixing crew
2023-10-01 20:45
Stewie back as an igl lol
2023-10-01 20:45
just get nitro back honestly if ur gonna have fking daps as igl
2023-10-01 20:46
11 replies
+1 wtf is this
2023-10-01 20:51
nitr0 has a daughter and wants to spend more time with his wife + daughter, so that's not going to happen lol. He's prioritizing family over his gaming career, which is something many people tend to do.
2023-10-02 01:45
9 replies
i miss his luxurious blonde American truck-driving hair((((
2023-10-02 04:35
I don’t care, he still has to make money somehow. It’s so funny how they pushed elige and nitro out of the squad thinking the grass was soooo much greener on the EU side and their results haven’t even been CLOSE to what was achieved in the last year or so with the old roster. Bring captain America back.
2023-10-02 08:36
7 replies
How the fuck did they push Nitro out, when he retired himself?
2023-10-02 11:48
2 replies
Literally this lol. nitr0 chose to retire from professional CSGO.
2023-10-02 13:24
1 reply
My guys if ELIGE, literally a guy who has Liquid running through his veins and has been a good performer for 8 years got booted out then what do you think was happening to nitr0. Sure, nitr0 might've been contemplating retiring semi soon but he only just came back from valorant not that long ago and he still had a lot left to give. Yekindar was gonna push him out the same way Elige got pushed out. Liquid went all in on the Yekindar system and his EU cronies. Nitr0 just chose to leave on his own terms instead.
2023-10-02 23:16
You're actually stupid, and your "I don't care" remark proves it. nitr0 chose to retire from professional CSGO because he wants to focus on spending time with his family. I'm sure he's made enough money over the years to be able to enjoy life with his family for a while. Also, he could come back in CS2 - nobody knows yet. He streams still, so it shows that he still likes to play video games. As for EliGe, his time was up. He's been washed up for nearly a year now if not longer. He's breathing life into Complexity, but he's still nowhere near as good as he was in 2021. Liquid removing EliGe was long overdue and it was unfortunate that nitr0 retired, but that doesn't excuse their poor decision making to let YEKINDAR be their IGL. Picking up Patsi and Rainwaker was not the worst move, but both were gambles, and so far, Patsi has been okay whereas they removed Rainwaker recently. This was kind of expected.
2023-10-02 13:27
1 reply
Calling me stupid when you morons love that "washed up" term because you're tunnel visioned on old 2019 elige. If he's not putting up the CRAZY numbers he did in 2019 then he's bad or something. Go look at his event ratings for 2022/2023. 1.05 for Katowice 2023 which they placed top 4, 1.10 blast world final which they placed top 2. 1.07 for blast fall final which they placed top 4. This is while being probably around the third best player for them and the results were so close to being either finals appearances or full blown wins and against top competition on LAN. This was also with a rookie awper in oSee who was super inconsistent. My guy how much do you think nitr0 really made? He's still pretty young and he's far from set for life or something. If you have a window to make 30 grand a month (or whatever their salary is) playing a video game you probably continue till the last possible second. Tell me what players they could've easily picked up that are putting up consistently as good numbers as elige was on LAN and in big events and that's already as proven as he is? I don't see how getting rid of him was long overdue when you're been hovering at the top 3 to top 5 mark for most of the yekindar nitr0 project. And you can't blame elige that much for the shox era. Liquid are a disgrace as an organization for letting yekindar come and take over the team to bring over his average at best EU cronies to replace literal LEGENDS who were still giving great performances in nitr0 and elige. You think because you're being cut throat with cutting elige that makes you some expert analyst or something rofl. You're just like every wannabe expert on csgo esports. You see his downwards decline from 2019 to 2023 and say "durr washed" when you have no understanding of the actual interworkings of an esports team goes and who actually makes sense as a replacement.
2023-10-02 23:36
The grass would have been greener on the EU side if they made better roster decisions. It's as simple as that. I wouldn't mind either way if they made a legit NA team or an actual good majority EU team.
2023-10-02 20:51
1 reply
Hardly. They were already hovering anywheres from top 3 to top 7 with multiple finals appearances during the nitr0 yekindar era and a major playoffs as well. You guys think roster changes are so easy... why don't you throw out some actual viable suggestions then instead of just saying "oh dumb management". The fact of the matter is they invested in the brilliant yekindar and these are the two players he vouched for and it was fucking dumb to act like this would've ever been an upgrade. Don't even get me started on losing your whole fanbase by switching regions as well.
2023-10-02 23:43
Who would have guessed xd
2023-10-01 20:46
oh my lord...
2023-10-01 20:48
LET'S GOOOO
2023-10-01 20:48
Bad move
2023-10-01 20:48
they didn't give him enough time
2023-10-01 20:49
i already said 3 months max and he will be out what a surprise
2023-10-01 20:49
is this because he from Bulgaria?
2023-10-01 20:50
Unlucky for him. 0.96 isn't that bad for support with their results
2023-10-01 20:51
2 replies
yeah even if a player is mediocre, getting benched in the middle of the season without a proper replacement is wild
2023-10-01 20:53
#55
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Estonia EquitaS
He was amazingly bad ingame. It's not about statistics. His lurk plays was something out of this world.
2023-10-01 21:02
Lol
2023-10-01 20:52
they want to abuse NA qualifiers loool
2023-10-01 20:53
#40
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Italy Skye620
Big W for liquid bringing it back to an NA team
2023-10-01 20:54
#42
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Finland Teukkasd
expected, finally
2023-10-01 20:55
yekindar strikes again, fml
2023-10-01 20:56
Now swap out patsi/yeki for stewie
2023-10-01 20:57
I liked Rainwaker, 0.96 isn't the worse for someone who does a lot of support but a 0.86 T rating mainly lurking is disappointing. Hopefully he can find a place where he can grow and mature. The question is how rusty is daps after his hiatus from play. It's not the worst that he can slot into igl and NAF/YEKINDAR can take some of their old roles back. Interested to see what Patsi will end up doing if Yekindar does take over entrying again.
2023-10-01 20:57
daps should be let go for giving up the reins to yek in the first place
2023-10-01 20:57
#47
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Sweden Vrede
i knew it
2023-10-01 20:58
#48
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Serbia Atom1c_o7
wat
2023-10-01 20:58
Imagine keeping oSee tho
2023-10-01 20:59
1 reply
#133
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United States 1Tuurtle
They need to to keep the rmr spot
2023-10-02 00:07
now -daps +stanislaw for old time's sake
2023-10-01 20:59
7 replies
#77
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Canada K1nGoldY
Bro literally, stan will fix everything if he takes reigns as igl daps is good as a coach as wll everything thing will heal itself
2023-10-01 21:27
6 replies
nah, I'd rather keep him with the guys he's with in order to develop another NA team. And because of jBa.
2023-10-01 21:34
5 replies
#85
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Canada K1nGoldY
I was thinking about it and if the team does scatter it can do some positive changes to every other NA team Liquid -rain +stan Nouns -CJ +wiz (cynic back to IGL) (nosrac back to support) Party astronauts -spek +JBA -grizz +infinite (solid firepower boost) COL -T. c +Steel -Hallzerk +sonic
2023-10-01 21:43
2 replies
eh, I think they intend on sticking together. No merit to split up.
2023-10-01 21:44
sonic can awp but hes not an awper, or at least he hasnt been professionally for a long while when the transfer window was open I would have liked to have seen a +osee or a +mantuu
2023-10-03 05:09
#118
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China Mahiro
in other words lulquid needs to abuse americas RMR qualifiers to be relevant kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2023-10-01 23:01
1 reply
why is why I'm actually glad Liquid's gone :v
2023-10-01 23:02
This does bring a smile to my face
2023-10-01 21:00
#53
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Poland BAN_ANIME
sad, gl to him liquid about to crash from another tournament tho
2023-10-01 21:02
1 reply
The showdown is their last tournament of 2023, if they dont make it, they're literally gone until the RMR since it's probably unlikely they'll get invited to Katowice lmao.
2023-10-01 21:08
#56
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Hungary szia
FINALLY, LIQUID IS NA AGAIN
2023-10-01 21:03
bench Yekindar for thinking hes an IGL
2023-10-01 21:06
#59
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North America minte
good
2023-10-01 21:07
#61
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Armenia VirtusNo
he can walk the dog now instead of the rain
2023-10-01 21:09
Nealan inc
2023-10-01 21:09
#63
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Australia crewy
Typical
2023-10-01 21:11
#66
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Croatia shinebair
"we changed players to win championships" -yekindar sure buddy
2023-10-01 21:14
#71
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Canada Eviljonbob
Good move, my Canadian captain!
2023-10-01 21:17
#75
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Brazil darkfroid
bad move
2023-10-01 21:25
1 reply
+1 But make sense as is NA tournament 🙃 -0see When??
2023-10-02 10:23
Fix fantasy rainwaker still there
2023-10-01 21:28
Why did they get him first honestly Such a waste a money for a terrible player
2023-10-01 21:31
Daps is the problem
2023-10-01 21:38
dunno what players like rainwaker and oSee are doing in tier 1
2023-10-01 21:41
#87
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Portugal ReyZ555
kekindar haters btfo "oh he has a big ego, he isn't stepping down from igl" gla1ve for igl -nosee +a good awper and lulquid will be top 5 ez
2023-10-01 21:45
1 reply
-osee +jdm (real)
2023-10-02 03:32
#88
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United States GiantDays
imagine my shock
2023-10-01 21:46
#89
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Albania aplasa
NA team again, why getting rainwaker in the first place you can't just get tier 3 player into tier 1 and expect him to be elige 2.0
2023-10-01 21:53
#90
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Bulgaria tick10
Yekindar opening frags last 3 months are not existing. NAF also struggle with his new role because he is too passive. Obviously Rainwaker will struggle in lurking roles when the team is not playing good on T sides overall. He was support player and an anchor on CT and I think he did alright. But lets say he is the most unpopular of them all players and they decide to bench him... how would you replace him with daps who hasnt played the game for a year :D Liquid at its finest
2023-10-01 21:49
1 reply
#149
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United States 1Tuurtle
Daps is a short term sub cause they are looking for a replacement, he’s not a long term addition
2023-10-02 01:20
#91
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Chile 1cristiaan
ayoooooooo
2023-10-01 21:50
hyped for daps
2023-10-01 22:04
It's all daps's long term plan, trust me.
2023-10-01 22:13
Oh boy, what a silly move from Liquid. Daps? He will be atrocious, mark my words. And if he is just a temporary solution, then sadly, there is no good IGL out there now! Rainwaker actually did 1.03 rating in the Pro League group stage, there was some little hope he is getting to it, he played ok after those horrendous first 2 events. So the better thing would be to try it one more time and in the meantime searching for a really good IGL solution if things come to worst. Nealan od stanislaw is not an option.
2023-10-01 22:17
1 reply
Ya like what’s the point. Daps is gonna take over the very hard role and most likely do no better than Rainwakers rating. I guess they’ll be searching for another international rifler real quick
2023-10-01 23:06
#102
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United Kingdom Leftie
lel at using a coach as a main player but also big W for getting YEKINDAR off IGL, I hope he goes back to popping off and isn't salty about losing IGL
2023-10-01 22:17
+TACO to IGL + CT and T bitch roles if I were a mid NA rifler, I would focus on being IGL. It's the easiest way to get opportunities.
2023-10-01 22:19
Liquid were honestly better off being NA
2023-10-01 22:18
xD very cool
2023-10-01 22:42
#112
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Finland Tusku
daps actually back on the server, hell yeah
2023-10-01 22:49
#114
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Bulgaria 630
Is this happens because we are from BULGARIA????
2023-10-01 22:56
1 reply
Fixers Mafia Nation* u pronounce Bulgaria wrong
2023-10-01 23:13
YEKINDAR is good friends with Nealan btw. So guess who joins Liquid next
2023-10-01 22:54
1 reply
(p.s. NAF also likes Nealan)
2023-10-01 22:55
I never was a fan of the rainwaker move but if you're gonna do a move like this, you gotta give him at least 3-6 months to develop
2023-10-01 22:59
Didn’t watch him enough to see if his skill was truly tier1, but his role definitely didn’t help. It’s Tough lurking and taking entries
2023-10-01 23:04
#122
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Bahamas CantBanMe
NA move
2023-10-01 23:07
Just pluck Yekindars old buddy Quickert up from ITB and set him up to take space and be traded like a Hooxi, or buy guns for the team Stop letting NAF sit on his laurels and trying to lurk, and get him involved in spaceing-trading out Quickert the decoy cannonfodder. Then get a real Awper with balls and not NoSee the Eternal missed timing crumbling whiff machine, maybe w0nderful who knows
2023-10-01 23:13
7 replies
and what problem doees it solve? qikert neither good igl nor anchor, but yeah he is good decoy
2023-10-02 00:06
6 replies
Same as Hooxi or even better, he can call and take space to be cannonfodder like Hooxi, jumping around with glock in hand offsetting crosshairs to be traded creating space etc, except Quickert can actually frag out at times and possesses a wealth of James big brain knowledge
2023-10-02 00:09
2 replies
but liquid dont have m0nesy, niko and hunter who frag like crazy to carry him. Patsi is mid and Osee misses too much
2023-10-02 00:13
1 reply
Yea true, Yekindar and Patsi can entry frag though and trade off one another with VP like flashplays etc, theyre not too bad...but oSee is definitely not a good awper I'll agree with that
2023-10-02 00:16
Quickert can be a great anchor on Inferno and Overpass monster B anchoring he's way better than rainmaker, watching Quickert dismantle Faze at Gamers8 you can see if Jame doesn't rob him of finances and resources Quickert can be a great system player like Jimmphat on Mouz, he just is always left on an island and told to play safe...kid can actually hold ahit down with proper utilities though
2023-10-02 00:13
2 replies
It's just one example, you are forgetting how qickert was losing overpass against navi in katowice on ct side, couldnt frag at all and also on A site mirage he was a liability most of VP games. Dont get me wrong, i am a VP fan too and i am happy than him and jame made such a long way together and lift major trophy, but qikert really should have been kicked out long time ago. He did play well against Faze, but i dont think he is better than rainwaker.
2023-10-02 00:20
1 reply
Yea but he's told to play safe for the retake, very tentative and almost skittish at Katowice 2023 against Navi who do also have a great Overpass B attack mind you, But at Gamers8 at times you'd get glimpses of his potential I'm guessing because it's his last time playing he showcased his capacity, just like at Rio vs Heroic anchoring Monster he wasn't a liability His spots on Mirage changed up and probably would be better than Rainwaker is all I'm saying
2023-10-02 00:23
Meme team
2023-10-01 23:15
#126
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Sweden Hasklon
why is the linked tournament the spring showdown instead of the fall showdown?
2023-10-01 23:15
I’m short term success this is fine because liquid will most likely qualify for blast final, but idk what this move does in the long run besides at best making a quarter final run in a lab tournie, this isn’t going to win liquid many more games and just reinforces the idea that moving to an EU centered lineup was a huge mistake
2023-10-01 23:15
Back to 500 doing match fix idiot
2023-10-01 23:17
Almost like Rainwaker was never the right choice for this team. Who would have guessed...
2023-10-01 23:25
Liquid is NA!!!!!
2023-10-01 23:50
#136
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United States kamenator
PLEASE BE A PERMANENT BENCH!!! 🙏
2023-10-02 00:13
#144
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Portugal Joaoman73
kick him now that he is improving...
2023-10-02 00:30
1 reply
yes, wasting more time would make so much sense
2023-10-02 00:33
My oh my, who would expect that Bulgarian match-fixer playing vs t1 teams will do shit. Whoever decided to waste those weeks with this guy should be treated the same way.
2023-10-02 00:32
1 reply
canary in a coal mine btw
2023-10-02 03:26
#153
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Luxembourg Maurizi0
Finally this fraud shitter is out Go back to tier4 and fix matches for mcdonalds food
2023-10-02 02:10
Dogwaker shouldnt be playing on Liquid at all
2023-10-02 03:06
1 reply
he got paid higher salaries for his time on LULquid than doctors make in his home country. what a time hes had
2023-10-02 04:58
(sells elige) "shit go back john we're sorry please"
2023-10-02 03:25
#164
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Brazil NayxL
ok now get biguzera, come back to Americas and farm a free major spot
2023-10-02 03:43
1 reply
+1 very competent idea tbf, biguzera was great at taking space and making round defining plays in a well structured team environment. He certainly did God's work against the old Liquid as well. Very good impact rifler which Liquid needs ,although he might not speak great English for comms.
2023-10-02 04:34
cool
2023-10-02 03:53
FIRE THE MANAGER WHO HIRES THESE SHIT PLAYERS. rainwaker, patsi, yekindar all shit players
2023-10-02 04:59
yeki IGL is actually feasible the problem is you cant find another yeki with such strong firepower to make it up
2023-10-02 05:43
1 reply
That’s why kekindar igl is not feasible
2023-10-03 12:24
Imagine signed tier3 player, gave him only 2 month playing, blamed him for losing and kick. NA CS
2023-10-02 05:47
2 replies
+100
2023-10-02 15:17
At least they weren’t pulling a NAVI and stuck with npl for 6 months and electronig igling for a full year
2023-10-03 11:59
clown org
2023-10-02 06:07
Still won’t drop oSee and his one good round per map. Bring in an IGL, let yekindar go back to just fragging and go get Wonderful and get rid of oSee. The kid is not good.
2023-10-02 06:13
1 reply
i think they should get naf back on lurk, yeki back on vp level entry, broky on the awp, twistzz back on liquid, and stewie2k back on igl, with a very strict daps keeping him accountable. the problem wasnt stewies calling cuz obv it worked for grand slam, he just got greedy and started walking around like he was the boss after that, daps will hold his play calling and emotions accountable and i think this can be a top 5 team
2023-10-02 06:48
#179
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Netherlands itsm
Daps will take liquid to new heights
2023-10-02 07:12
what a clown org :D sign new player with almost 0 exp in t1, gave him 3 months and bench :D what about the others? they have almost the same ratings, and now we switch to cs2 and noone have idea how the things will go
2023-10-02 07:22
#181
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Hong Kong Hcl666
any tier 3 team could win liquid with yekindar as igl good thing they let daps be igl
2023-10-02 07:38
LETS GO NO MORE HAVING TO WATCH WAINWANKER PLAY GOD IS GOOD
2023-10-02 07:51
#186
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Russia mshkoda
weirdo
2023-10-02 09:29
#187
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Malaysia Rich1eG0h
Stewie2k
2023-10-02 09:32
#188
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Israel RoyBenji
They need a normal igl fast
2023-10-02 09:35
Finally Yekindar can focus on being a star fragger without IGLing
2023-10-02 09:41
#192
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Italy MulaManca
Mareks "Two faced" Gaļinskis strikes once again
2023-10-02 10:43
+stew incoming or+n1tro back and yeki stop igling
2023-10-02 11:09
HANDPICKED PLAYER BTW They really ruined their team for LULkindar lmao
2023-10-02 11:49
#196
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North America Karismaaa
God, I love watching this team fail. I could've named 5+ players from the NA region that deserved a shot more than rainwaker. Hope they come back to NA majority.
2023-10-02 12:32
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH We all knew Yekindar is joke of an IGL, but how Liquid fell for this “handpicked super team” of his I have no idea.
2023-10-02 13:28
1 reply
NA management in a nutshell
2023-10-03 11:53
#201
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Ukraine Patrizio
Stupid roster change.Why bring him at the first place? Coz somehow it will work?
2023-10-02 13:32
6 replies
I mean it is a free roster move daps used to be decent IGL so why not give it a try, it’s not like they have to buy-out someone. If it doesn’t work they bring back rainwalker for next event.
2023-10-02 13:57
5 replies
#204
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Ukraine Patrizio
Daps last time he played he had like 0,77 K/D You still think its a good decision? XD
2023-10-02 14:00
4 replies
Yes IGLs are valued for their K/D you just proved how poor in mind you are. Yes it’s free roster move and Liquid struggle since they don’t have IGL so I think it’s option worth giving a shot at least in short term while you look for other IGLs and in case it works out good for them.
2023-10-02 14:23
3 replies
#208
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Ukraine Patrizio
Okey for the whole tournament they lost 7 games and won only one map when he went 0,77 You still think it was a good decision?
2023-10-02 14:35
2 replies
Look at the opposition, yekindar will fragg for himself and for daps easily
2023-10-02 16:00
1 reply
#216
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Ukraine Patrizio
Let's see
2023-10-02 16:09
#205
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Poland Limbos
he is not the problem
2023-10-02 14:14
3 replies
+1 Yep, they have NAF “The Star” who perform one good map/ one bad map 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Also he said in Live interview EPL that he didn’t share nothing with Rainwaker about his lurking tricks 🤦🏻‍♂️ Such a teammate😬 You can guess how comfortable this will be for a player who just been signed with no exp. at S-tier, seeing him so shy on camera, no exciting wining or loosing.. just like a looser in a school 😆🤣 Not funny tho🙃 Yekindar- oh my, a really good entry riffler! Unfortunately just like The Superstar Naf-Fly, he thought he is something special and can do it all🥴 well IGL is just not for him, specially with this team! Osee- or nosee, once before for a little bit of time he had a great momentum AWP-ing, lately is just 50/50 at Best, will never do something significant as others hide ranked AWPer. He reminds me of Smooya/Woxic/CeRq/NatoX e.t.c.😬 Liquid have to immediately search for replacement! If they want improvements of course😀 Patsi- I think he is like a wild child and have a good future, in my opinion he is more consistent than NAF at those last events 🧐 just as Rainwaker, he will need a time to adapt properly. Rainwaker- well, maybe not ready for S-Tier or just bad team that doesn’t make him comfortable. I want to see him enjoying the game as Patsi do, yelling, screaming, releasing good & bad energy🤪 Deff will help him.
2023-10-02 15:54
2 replies
huh
2023-10-02 20:25
Imagine using not just 1 but 10 different emoji on hltv in one comment. Holy moly this comment is soooo cringe.
2023-10-02 22:10
#206
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Belgium Soldierce
ez4 johny daps
2023-10-02 14:17
As an old school liquid fan If this is the state of the team they should just go back to being NA and only compete in NA until they get their team sorted. I'd rather see them play only NA vs this mess.
2023-10-02 14:38
already giving up on rainwaker after 3 months which included extended summer break? lol
2023-10-02 15:51
It's almost like letting Snekindar usurp IGL from nitr0 was a bad idea or something Unfortunately, Rainwaker is having to pay the price for bad foresight
2023-10-02 18:08
1 reply
Liquid was the one paying. Paying rainwanker 10k+ a month
2023-10-03 11:44
Daps in the server is always a treat
2023-10-02 18:15
come back stewie
2023-10-02 19:30
WELCOME BACK TACO
2023-10-02 20:03
5 replies
Wtf in what universe would be TACO upgrade if he joined Liquid instead of literally any player? also Is this SK_FAN_FROM_BRAZIL alt account?
2023-10-02 22:13
4 replies
Removing yekindar as igl would already be an upgrade , also taco has visa(Many cannot) and speak english , have good experience with the team , can be a IGL ; but for me Nexa its a better option to the position. ALSO bruuh im living in berlin tf FAZE_FAN_FROM_EU alt account?
2023-10-02 22:57
3 replies
HAHAHA true BRA71L brain saying -YEKINDAR +TACO Where was TACO IGLing and achieved something? He would be no better than YEKINDAR in that regard plus he would shock the world yet again with his 0.8 ratings. Yekindar stays no matter what as rifler and you replace rainwalker with proper IGL and -osee +degster or any other top tier awper
2023-10-03 05:06
2 replies
I’m not saying to yekindar leave liquid 4head , just to be move to rifle roles ( u can't interpreted a question and saying BRAZIL Brain KEWK) , Srry with the 5 wrld cups LMAO
2023-10-03 12:42
1 reply
Lmao BRA71L speaking about 5 world cups while most of them were from farmer age of football
2023-10-03 15:40
horrible move from liquid
2023-10-02 22:17
Yekindar is a toolkit. Liquid just can't catch a break. Bad choices from top to bottom.
2023-10-03 05:17
#236
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United States evanc
- elige + daps W
2023-10-03 06:50
1 reply
- elige + rainwanker Even bigger W
2023-10-03 11:43
they didn't give him enough time
2023-10-03 15:18
#246
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United States Reevengy
so +stew as Liquid IGL in a few months -raincranker
2023-10-03 15:56
#248
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Europe juschb0b
not rainwaker is the problem
2023-10-03 19:29
1 reply
#249
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United States evanc
rainwaker is definitely a part of the problem
2023-10-04 06:26
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