WCG 2010 group draw

The World Cyber Games organisation has announced the groups for the 2010 tournament.

The event will officially start the 30th of September, lasting until the 3rd of October, with a total of eight groups having been drawn. It will furthermore take place in the city of Los Angeles, USA, at the Los Angeles Convention Center. 

Whichever teams manage to secure top two placing will advance to the playoffs. The groups for World Cyber Games 2010 are as follows:

Group A Group B Group C Group D
Denmark wCrea Ukraine Natus Vincere Russia forZe Sweden SK Gaming
North Macedonia Entity Greece Greece Brazil FireGamers Russia Meet Your Makers
Spain bet4gamers Indonesia EXECUTIONERS Pakistan i-DX India ATE Gaming
Romania Earthquake      
Group E Group F Group G Group H
Australia Immunity Denmark mTw Poland Frag eXecutors Korea WeMade FOX
Sweden Lions Azerbaijan F.azer.Z China TyLoo Canada Area51
United States USA Belarus Katana Hong Kong Duskbin United Arab Emirates Gameholics
France France     Serbia neWave.PlayMore

Not all teams have been determined yet, as there are still a few qualifiers to be held, namely in Greece, USA and France. Meanwhile, in addition to the groups, the map pool has also been announced:

de_dust2
de_train
de_inferno
de_nuke
de_tuscan 

You will be able to follow the grand event right here on HLTV.org as we will be on site in Los Angeles to provide you with full coverage.

Nice!
2010-09-07 09:48
67 replies
LOL! Nice nick!
2010-09-07 10:08
22 replies
bad luck for ate again...!!!...wmf and ate shld switch places
2010-09-07 14:13
21 replies
No Fg n Ate shud switch I want to see India Vs Pakistan :)
2010-09-07 14:29
9 replies
dint notice dat...well dat wld b bttr...ate wil be criticised like hell if thy lose to pakistan
2010-09-07 16:00
india would win if they had match wid iDx(pakistan)....because lahoris can only beat indianz not people from karachi lol
2010-09-07 18:19
5 replies
what's your age? i think you're not older than 14, 15..
2010-09-07 21:19
4 replies
agree with you Gl for pakistan .. Go Awais,danish,pogo,omar saghir,ghazal,naruto beat them all
2010-09-07 22:10
3 replies
lol......did incredibles ever won a single international match......except that match wid adu dabhis team which was 5 on 4.......they cant even beat india....LOL
2010-09-08 06:40
2 replies
LOL kid .... i dun know about -i- but u5 certainly did
2010-09-09 10:56
1 reply
leave it pakis rock ;)
2010-09-09 12:13
actually mym is doable for ate on a good day. and there are seeds used so ofc. the switch with wmf wouldn't be appropriate :)
2010-09-09 19:31
+1
2010-09-10 19:58
LOL ...ate with sk and MYM.rofl they shouldnt go LA. and save their ticket money sorry i do luv ate but their recent performance at MSI BEAT IT finals was *#@*# i mean the lost 5 out of 5 matches they played.
2010-09-07 18:46
10 replies
but ate should try......giving up isn't the solution
2010-09-08 06:41
9 replies
But incredicle beats lahoris many time like that time haha
2010-09-08 07:35
8 replies
lol.....but still sasuke >>>> deadly evil....and lahoris perform better internationally then incredibles
2010-09-08 08:23
7 replies
U guys still keep fighting over KARACHI n LAHORIS Grow UP dude idX is representing PAKISTAN not KARACHI or LAHORE.....
2010-09-08 12:31
6 replies
yea u r ryt my bad :D
2010-09-08 21:37
1 reply
thnx for appreciating :) tc
2010-09-08 21:52
gl i-DX go go go !!!.. :D
2010-09-09 12:43
3 replies
u guys won`t believe but i had a match with -i-dx yesterday ( 2nd day of eid ) on Fariya gaming zone (Gulshan, Karachi... u guys srsly won`t believe we gave them a switch of 12-3 in nuke we totaly pawned them in terrorist ! lol and when we came in ct, i think we only won 1 round though ! it was a challenging match as pogo is my frnd, they r in form and the main thing abt the match is that match was 4 on 5 they were 4 they said that they r enough ! and they realy raped us in terror one of our player had a ninja def. aswell :D:D
2010-09-13 20:50
1 reply
hhmmm.... but unfortunately they are not participating this year :(
2010-10-02 20:22
gogogo!!!!!!!!! i-DX
2010-09-15 05:01
+ ex. BURNING! + EG
2010-09-07 11:09
5 replies
+EG +FNATIC +ex.BURNING
2010-09-07 13:12
na vi replacing eg
2010-09-07 13:47
3 replies
nope
2010-09-08 01:08
1 reply
jap ;)
2010-09-08 13:50
No, they are not you retard, learn something before posting.
2010-09-13 13:19
World Cyber Games shit SHIT SHIT not adequate admins no fnatic no spectators FUUU FUUU WCG
2010-09-07 11:34
37 replies
fnatic have chosen by themself not to be in this turnament..
2010-09-07 11:35
33 replies
because of the stupid nordic qualifier its not fair ..sweden, norway and finland share 1 slot but denmark gets 2 slots RETARDED
2010-09-07 11:59
32 replies
That is still not true, how exactly do you explain that both Lions and SK is going if that was true?
2010-09-07 12:02
23 replies
true :D
2010-09-07 14:27
whatever there were 2 slots for wcg nordic there were 3 nations so STILL IT'S NOT FAIR!
2010-09-07 15:20
2 replies
No there were more slots.
2010-09-07 15:22
Every team that attended WCG Nordic have a slot. The thing is that only the winners get their expenses paid, which is f*cked up.
2010-09-07 16:42
But, Nomad, why weren't Denmark competing in the Nordic qualifier? Lions(H2k) came in third after sk in the qualifier to the nordic qualifiers.. That's just lame. Why couldn't they just send 1 team from each country sweden, norway and finland?
2010-09-07 15:21
11 replies
Because Denmark has a separate WCG license holder than Sweden, Norway and Finland had, seriously, are you guys even remotely aware of how the WCG works? Try doing some research before you bash anyone, you guys are way off.
2010-09-07 15:23
10 replies
It's not even a problem of number. What we try to tell you Nomad, it's just the fact that WCG Nordic provided 2,3,4 or five slots, whatever, to few nations while the other qualifiers provided one or two slots for each nation qualifier. This is not logic, license issues or not. All nations and more particularly Scandinavian nations, Denmark and more have a huge impact of what the e-sport scene is today. That's how WCG thanks Scandinavia for that, all right. Just one think fnatic, powergaming will not be there. WCG taste their own policy. I don't even need to do research to have my own point of view on WCG behaviour. If WCG has financial issues, then remove qualifier from unknown country such as Greece, Macedonia, they'll not have to pay for these trips, we don't mind.
2010-09-07 16:21
9 replies
Sigh, and again you are dead wrong, WCG doesn't PAY anything for those random qualifiers, the ones holding the qualifiers are paying, that is the whole point, I cannot discuss this with you if you do not understand the system WCG uses.
2010-09-07 16:25
8 replies
+1
2010-09-07 16:27
2 replies
Turn off thumb up because you're useless
2010-09-07 16:38
1 reply
stfu you got no idea what you talking about. There are first 4 Nordic teams and it is not the WCG's fault local organizers did not want to host qualifiers.
2010-09-07 18:58
Aren't these qualifiers an instance of the whole WCG organization?
2010-09-07 16:29
3 replies
No.
2010-09-07 16:35
1 reply
my team from jordan should been playing butttt no sponsers :/
2010-09-08 00:14
nevermind
2010-09-08 17:04
eheh reminds me of something : " BEEP BEEP NOMAD DRIVING THE SCHOOL BUS ... "
2010-09-07 17:17
+1
2010-09-07 16:10
They needed to pay everything themselfs? Is that fair? Make one Swedish qualifier!
2010-09-13 13:20
5 replies
Uh no, SK isn't paying anything..
2010-09-13 13:28
4 replies
No, but Lions are.
2010-09-13 15:08
3 replies
And mTw most like is too, so what is your point?!
2010-09-13 15:15
2 replies
Yeah but they got their own qualifier, Sweden, Norway and Finland had to share. The Danish oranizer choosed to give them a spot, if they paid by themselfs?!
2010-09-13 16:37
1 reply
?! The spots are handed out by the qualifiers, several teams got spots during the nordic qualifier, SK, lions, the fins and so on, only Lions chose to go however, same thing in Denmark there were two spots, the Danish organizers decided to pay for the first spot and mTw most likely paid for the second, how hard can this be to understand?! WCG didn't pay for ANYTHING, it was all on the qualifiers..
2010-09-13 17:00
and portugal share 0 slots fuck wcg seriously..
2010-09-07 12:44
6 replies
Portugal was offered two slots, but the portoguess organisers chose not to buy any.
2010-09-07 13:26
Portugal decided not to go.
2010-09-07 13:26
u think that portuguese teams have money to fly to US ? pretty dificult, maybe k1ck but its hard
2010-09-07 13:45
2 replies
its because portu decided to vote in games like Fifa and street fighter over CS... GG
2010-09-07 14:06
1 reply
Because it's cheaper to send 1-2 players instead of a whole team.
2010-09-07 16:43
why do you talk so much shit? the matter here isn't with WCG organization. In the fact OUR COUNTRY is the real problem.
2010-09-07 14:33
they decided by themself not to go... so it is fair..
2010-09-08 09:48
2010-09-07 11:55
Thay have many sponzores and cant play with sponzors:S
2010-09-07 13:01
who cares about fnatic, way too overhyped
2010-09-07 17:57
hmm, nice groups. not really a group of death, only E is quite strong. what about a german team?
2010-09-07 09:53
6 replies
true, sad that mousesports aren't atending any lans atm :$
2010-09-07 11:20
group E is not only strong, it's unfair imo. There should be ex-BURNING!, EG and Lions, 3 really good teams when group F & H combined only have 2...
2010-09-07 11:40
2 replies
Group A should switch 1 with group E then the groups are fair. And F should trade 1 with duskbin from G or else wcg is a joke.
2010-09-07 18:59
1 reply
true, or maybe group H that looks almost ridiculous, at least in group A there are wCrea and B4G at least this time it's obvious that WMF won't be eliminated because of a draw in group stage...
2010-09-07 19:01
hey, can anyone tell me where are Duskbin,F.azer.Z from? i really don't know:[
2010-09-07 17:59
1 reply
Hong Kong (Dussk), Azerbaijan (F.azer)
2010-09-07 21:00
nice
2010-09-07 09:48
Ohh poor ATE
2010-09-07 09:49
10 replies
lol seriously.. still hf guys..
2010-09-07 09:53
6 replies
they just have to beat MYM... thats all :D
2010-09-07 10:03
5 replies
yea very 'easy' :D
2010-09-07 11:04
yes thats all :D
2010-09-07 13:49
Its never gonna happend! MYM will kick there asses!
2010-09-07 14:52
2 replies
Easy, Tiger.
2010-09-07 16:45
yep I should think, that about GetHarD - MYM u think so too ;)
2010-09-07 18:27
would rather say poor Duskbin or immunity :)
2010-09-07 12:24
Ate bad luck...but valuablr exp/ if they are to participate in more tourneys....if
2010-09-07 12:47
I dont remember when was the last time India won any match in wcg....i guess one more year of Loosing streak. :(
2010-09-07 13:38
LOL immunity's group ~_~
2010-09-07 09:49
5 replies
group h lol :D admins stupids, no word.
2010-09-07 12:17
3 replies
Says a guy from Ukraine ... Na`Vi has one of the easyst groups ever!
2010-09-07 15:19
2 replies
That's irrelevant. He was just stating the fact that the admins/organisers are stupid.
2010-09-07 16:47
1 reply
I know but its true Na`vi has an easy group so not talk about it :)
2010-09-07 18:03
hahah yep gl :D
2010-09-07 12:25
hard group for Eq :-/ gl m8s.
2010-09-07 09:50
Gl Newave.PLAYMORE go go
2010-09-07 09:50
easyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy for wmf,mtw and navi
2010-09-07 09:51
C, G, D and E seems like the only groups that can offer some great matches. Nice draw for the danish guys though :D
2010-09-07 09:52
5 replies
Yea, rly easy group for mtw.
2010-09-07 10:04
group A wCrea vs B4G?? could be a good match too
2010-09-07 13:05
1 reply
Well yeah, but b4g have been performing poorly for quite some time, so i think wCrea will win without too many problems, but b4g definately has the potential to do a lot of damage.
2010-09-07 17:31
#792
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
c ? i dont think so
2010-09-07 22:22
1 reply
ForZe have won against bigger teams than Firegamers, so don't be too quick to rule them out.
2010-09-08 08:57
#10
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Denmark TricoN
No Germany?
2010-09-07 09:52
3 replies
#58
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Vietnam sgk_12m
+1 ?
2010-09-07 10:23
1 reply
www.hltv.org/news/4616-germany-with-no-cs-team-at-wcg ;)
2010-09-07 12:11
finally we have a chance C'MON PLAYMORE ! ! !
2010-09-07 09:54
11 replies
Its not gonna happend!
2010-09-07 15:23
10 replies
why do you have to bash any guy who supports his country's team? Grow up..it's not always about winning..these teams are at a different stage altogether..they will only grow with more exposure.
2010-09-07 20:40
9 replies
Hahaha and u think ATE will go trough or what?
2010-09-07 20:46
8 replies
I think there's a good chance they will only get less than 10 rounds total in two matches against good opponents like SK and MYM...pretty bad. So does that give you license to troll here and do what you are doing? NO
2010-09-07 20:50
7 replies
I have my rights to say what i think? or are you the boss for HLTV.org? Njaa i dont think so!
2010-09-07 20:52
6 replies
fall back on this excuse of "opinion" when you run out of arguments..great. Please don't stop...spam your opinion. bye
2010-09-07 20:54
5 replies
Are you 12 or 10? I can´t see no diffrent :S
2010-09-07 21:00
4 replies
You are calling everyone 10 or 12...maybe its you who lacks maturity? Thought about that?
2010-09-07 21:01
3 replies
Hahahaha now u was funny! Then u are not mature at all :/ Sorry m8!
2010-09-07 21:04
2 replies
pant just a word of wisdom, grow up kiddy
2010-09-07 23:11
Get cancer and die.
2010-09-10 20:33
when WCG2010?
2010-09-07 09:54
1 reply
The event will officially start the 30th of September, lasting until the 3rd of October Just as it states in the news.
2010-09-07 21:19
who know lineup for group a? dece earthquake play?? and lineup for b4g,wcrea and entity
2010-09-07 09:56
5 replies
bet4gamers: MusambaN1, xhiroz, FlipiN, Kairi, sioKR wCrea: Friis, ArcadioN, wazorN, suraNga, karrigan earthquale an enity i don't know, and don't mind they are going to be eliminated both
2010-09-07 10:05
3 replies
wanna bet Eq gets 2nd place in the group? :/
2010-09-07 11:16
2 replies
Yes, how much can you afford?
2010-09-07 13:08
you`re crazy:)) look at the lines of b4g and wCrea
2010-09-07 15:11
ENTiTY : kalaN , NENO , N1GHTMARE , CI@ and kiril
2010-09-07 10:42
#18
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Brazil hugoooo
FINNALY AN EASY GROUP FOR BAZILIANS \0/ wCrea + B4G Na'Vi + XcN FG + forZe SK + MYM EG + Lions mTw + random Tyloo + FX WMF + A51 (maybe not, they are bad)
2010-09-07 09:57
3 replies
nooooo FG+iDx
2010-09-07 11:21
there not that bad, if they practice they have a chance towards WMF
2010-09-08 04:07
1 reply
#834
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Brazil hugoooo
wtf! have you seen then on WCG Pan?!
2010-09-08 05:00
#19
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Portugal fanatic2k
no portugal =/
2010-09-07 09:57
and again tyloo and fx in one wcg group :D
2010-09-07 09:58
#22
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Hong Kong Iky
MTW got it damn easy
2010-09-07 09:59
easy for mtw and wmfox <3
2010-09-07 10:01
3 replies
and wCrea :) We have been very lucky with our draws :)
2010-09-07 12:26
2 replies
I'm routing for wCrea to make things happen to be honest, like to be the next Na'vi or something :)
2010-09-07 13:31
1 reply
dont think you can compare wCrea with NaVi because those from navi had more experiance. but wCrea members dosent have alot of that and aim wice i also think navi is on an whole other level
2010-09-07 15:46
where is fnatic?
2010-09-07 10:01
1 reply
sad bt fnatic not goin to play dis.... u can chck d fnatic site, u will knw d reason for it :-)
2010-09-07 10:23
to be honest... it would be more useful if there had been a portuguese team that the underdogs from hell like azerbajan sad but true.. PS : no potuguese fanboys pls ;)
2010-09-07 10:01
1 reply
every one deserves a chance ! :)
2010-09-07 11:19
#29
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Iceland alex!
Lets go SK! :)
2010-09-07 10:01
FX POWERRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDD C'monnn nejo !!
2010-09-07 10:02
ate ka rape :D
2010-09-07 10:02
fnatic!! invite fnatic!
2010-09-07 10:06
4 replies
fnatic chose by themself not på participat in this turnement..
2010-09-07 11:39
3 replies
whY?
2010-09-07 12:21
2 replies
Because of the nordic quali that Sweden Norway and Finland did gonna fight over the spot for the WCG but they didnt want to!
2010-09-07 15:28
1 reply
"fight over the paid spot for the WCG" more likely...
2010-09-07 21:20
#38
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Denmark Saiya_7
no german teams :/
2010-09-07 10:06
wgat is the prize pool for cs?
2010-09-07 10:08
#42
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Portugal King_tmac
wcg 2010 sucks
2010-09-07 10:10
5 replies
qualified already Kazakhstan (k23) Power Gaming (finland) Online Kingdom (norway) eSuba (Czech) USA (EG/Loaded/ex-coL?) France (ex-B/Millenium?) Unknown ? Taiwan (UMX?) United-Kingdom (dignitias?4Kings?) Unlucky? k1ck/OK.pt (portugal?) German (mousesports/attax?) retarded? fnatic(sweden) So this List will be even filled with lots more teams and isn't complete should of never been released :/
2010-09-07 11:37
3 replies
PG, OK and eSuba are going to attend WCG, because they dont have money, dont know how about k23
2010-09-07 15:08
2 replies
So they're going without money? Nice =D
2010-09-07 16:27
they arent going*
2010-09-07 16:28
because Portugal isn't there?
2010-09-07 20:41
niCE GRoups GL FOr Pakistan
2010-09-07 10:10
Look out for GoMeZ on the scene
2010-09-07 10:12
Its nearly TOO easy for mTw and wcrea.
2010-09-07 10:12
5 replies
B4G > wCrea
2010-09-07 10:14
4 replies
So that's why they're 3rd seeded?
2010-09-07 10:37
2 replies
well its strange cause all groups seems seeded except group E. Would at least put Lions on the top
2010-09-07 12:35
1 reply
That is strange indeed.
2010-09-07 13:44
b4G > wCrea, i laughed.
2010-09-07 10:48
fnatic is disqualifyed
2010-09-07 10:13
2 replies
zzzz fnatic isnt dqed...... they only decided not to play !!!!
2010-09-07 10:24
1 reply
and thats why they're disqualified lol
2010-09-08 15:38
whats the line up for MYM.. and for what fnatic is disqualifyed? -_^
2010-09-07 10:14
3 replies
MYM: hooch, ed1k, ROMJkE, xek, XomA
2010-09-07 10:15
fnatic isnt dqed yaar.... they r boycotting wcg !
2010-09-07 10:27
1 reply
lol classic indian term..yaar
2010-09-07 12:11
Not that hard for PlayMore if they play their cards right, gl SRBIJA!
2010-09-07 10:18
#52
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Ukraine santosjke
Is this a finally teamlist? Because I count about 40 team which take a invitation. (there are no Finland, Norway, Germany ... teams)
2010-09-07 10:19
2 replies
finland (PG), Norway (Online Kingdom) got slots, but they have to pay for travel and accomodation, so they wont attend Germany wont have cs team this year
2010-09-07 15:09
1 reply
O-K will maybe attend.
2010-09-07 16:49
GL neWave.PlayMore!
2010-09-07 10:21
Nice :)
2010-09-07 10:21
no germany, esuba???
2010-09-07 10:21
n e W a v e . P l a y M o r e GO GO GO!
2010-09-07 10:22
1 reply
+1
2010-09-07 18:06
Haha, this year's WCG is one complete joke. I have never even heard half of the names, and the three Nordic countries, one of the best CS-areas in the world, get only one spot overall. And #48, that is why fnatic disqualified; they didn't attend the Nordic qualifiers coz they wanted to protest WCG by that.
2010-09-07 10:24
9 replies
navi,sk,mym,wmf,mtw,fx .. complete nobodies ey??? the only teams that are missing are fnatic ..wich are boycotting this shit tournament cus of its shit rules .. and for some reason i dont see any finnish teams ....or germans ...
2010-09-07 11:18
2 replies
Didn't say those teams are noobies. Actually I meant the whole tournament should be full of similar teams, not these neverheards like Katana, Duskbin etc (no offence). E: and for #138, the problem is not that Denmark has 2 spots (they certainly deserve it) but more like sharing 1 spot with 3 good CS countries, as I already said...
2010-09-07 11:30
1 reply
www.sk-gaming.com/tournament/601 there are always "random" teams qualified
2010-09-07 19:07
i also hate the qualifier shit ...denmark gets 2 slots ..... and swedem,norway,finlad share 1 slot PATHETIC
2010-09-07 11:19
4 replies
not true.... they all got 2 spots.. it is up to the country themself to organize and pay 4 it,
2010-09-07 11:42
3 replies
but who have money to pay for 5 players to travel to USA for few days?! seriously, Nordic qual isnt fair
2010-09-07 15:10
2 replies
dk have money for 2 teams? polan got. sweden got?
2010-09-08 09:46
1 reply
I mean, there's not much teams that can afford sending 5 players to USA, I mean it cost very much
2010-09-08 15:26
I agree with you on the fact that Nordic teams are way better...but these rants against the new teams are seriously sad and getting old really....CS is meant to be enjoyed by everyone and this is their chance.... Go petition WCG or your qualifier organizer for more slots...whatever...that's the right way to resolve this problem of few slots for Scandinavia...I agree you guys should get more slots..no two ways about it... But its not to be done by removing young and unknown teams...this is WCG and they are the representatives of their country...respect that.
2010-09-07 20:46
whos going to USA form hltv crew ?!! cmon!! Send Pus!! one time!!!
2010-09-07 10:24
#62
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Ukraine santosjke
Group A - wCrea, bet4gamers Group B - NaVi, EXECUTIONERS Group C - forZe, FireGamers Group D - SK, MYM Group E - Lions, USA Group F - mTw, Katana Group G - FX, TyLoo Group H - WMF, Area 51 ...my bet
2010-09-07 10:25
2 replies
FG will finish first place in their group, I have no doubt about that.
2010-09-07 19:53
1 reply
#747
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Ukraine santosjke
I bet who will go to 1/8 finals, not place in group
2010-09-07 20:03
no NZ? we had qualifiers and the players say they are going......
2010-09-07 10:25
4 replies
so hurt, but it's happend =/
2010-09-07 10:30
What have happened, then? No money to send Archaic?
2010-09-07 10:41
2 replies
Na I think it was just a WCG stuff up. Pretty sure they are sorting it now
2010-09-07 10:43
1 reply
I'm glad to hear :-)
2010-09-07 10:45
It's not so sure that Greece is going to attend this event. -_-'
2010-09-07 10:27
2 replies
why not? I heard that we will have quals!
2010-09-07 12:03
1 reply
ahm when?
2010-09-07 14:28
group E death where`s germany?
2010-09-07 10:28
#67
boX | 
Greenland ALBiNh0
k29 go.. u have all chances
2010-09-07 10:28
Wtf, groupe E??? Ninjaedit: I consider F.azer.Z and Katana quite lucky.
2010-09-07 10:40
de_dust2 de_train de_inferno de_nuke de_tuscan please pick an other map ore two maybe. ---------------------------------------- Group A - wCrea/bet4gamers Group B - Natus Vincere/EXECUTIONERS Group C - forZe/FireGamers Group D - SK/MYM Group E - Lions/USA Group F - mTw/Katana Group G - Frag eXecutors/TyLoo Group H - WeMade FOX/Area51
2010-09-07 10:29
4 replies
Yeah, they should get a few more maps. That would make the tournament mutch more intresting :)
2010-09-07 11:38
3 replies
but what maps for example? there is no other playable maps
2010-09-07 12:07
de_cbble FTW!
2010-09-07 15:11
1 reply
Yeah. I really liked that map too.
2010-09-07 16:57
haha oh wow
2010-09-07 10:32
Sad for Ate.....again bad luck
2010-09-07 10:34
2 replies
yea.... sad group 1more tym :| nyway dis way they will get som more confidnce bt really watd to say dem pass thru groups :P
2010-09-07 10:38
1 reply
yeah last time they also had a tough group :P:P:P
2010-09-07 11:21
Fnatic don´t participate in WCG? What?
2010-09-07 10:36
1 reply
fnatic boycotted wcg !
2010-09-07 10:40
ohhhhh immunity, glhf with that group
2010-09-07 10:36
1 reply
peekay has spoken
2010-09-07 11:46
bad for entity :/ anyways gogo Macedonia!
2010-09-07 10:40
1 reply
2nd is possible :)
2010-09-07 12:28
-i-dX gL
2010-09-07 10:43
1 reply
line-up i-DX, please?
2010-09-10 19:09
n e W a v e . P l a y M o r e GoGoGo
2010-09-07 10:43
Final: mTw vs FX
2010-09-07 10:44
fnatic ? ? ? ? ?
2010-09-07 10:47
2 replies
how can u guys keep on asking the same questions.. omg, fnatic has boycotted wcg.. can u plz read more than just the big news, or just gather some information before u ask stupid questions..
2010-09-07 12:33
1 reply
Did i ask u to comment ? HLTV is well reputed website and has so many users to reply my post I was expecting the same thing that mTw got surpise slot by wcg management. So from now on stop posting nonsense comments Thank you . DUMB ASS !!!!
2010-09-08 18:07
USA = EG player only ? and France = ?? 4 group have 3 teams only .. no another teams will add to this tournament ? * srry for my english ..
2010-09-07 10:47
1 reply
WCG USA and WCG France are still to be held, as stated in the news. As for the groups featuring just three teams as there are teams still seeing if they will attend or not these might be added to these groups.
2010-09-07 21:40
that's so fucking unfair :( immunity is always getting in groups of death :/
2010-09-07 10:48
gl eq
2010-09-07 10:48
What's with Team America and Team France? Will be mixes, or just teams still unknown?
2010-09-07 10:49
2 replies
read the article
2010-09-07 11:07
#905
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Denmark AndersR
rofl team america :D
2010-09-08 22:56
haha fuck thats rough for iM, stomp em anyway boys
2010-09-07 10:49
GOGO PlayMore
2010-09-07 10:55
Group A - wCrea/Eq Group B - Natus Vincere/EXECUTIONERS Group C - forZe/FireGamers Group D - SK/MYM Group E - Lions/USA Group F - mTw/Katana Group G - Frag eXecutors/TyLoo Group H - WeMade FOX/Area51
2010-09-07 10:56
33 replies
Group c firegamers and i-Dx
2010-09-07 11:11
31 replies
lol. nice joke :D
2010-09-07 11:16
30 replies
no boi it ain't a joke iDx have good aim but no strategies still they can compete
2010-09-07 11:20
29 replies
Svg i think you aint following forZe ... they are quite good. but still gl to i-Dx . Beven here :P
2010-09-07 11:24
We will look. :)
2010-09-07 11:24
26 replies
ya v will....at least our awpers are far better :P
2010-09-07 11:27
25 replies
Ok-ok. :D
2010-09-07 11:29
yea .. but what about FG Fallen ? :D
2010-09-07 11:30
8 replies
if sasuke goes then v will c.....hes better den fallen gabrial and hes back in form 2 :)
2010-09-07 11:32
7 replies
well we will see ..... big GL to Team-Pk
2010-09-07 12:22
1 reply
ya GL iDX
2010-09-07 14:05
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA ..... u dont know anything about forze or FG then ..... mark my words they wont get more than 6 rounds
2010-09-07 14:21
4 replies
boi people said the same words 2 me when u5 was getting ready to play against EE....m not sayin dayll win but still hope for 10 rounds
2010-09-07 17:48
3 replies
i know you mean eg
2010-09-07 19:37
2 replies
oh my bad EG :D
2010-09-08 06:37
+1
2010-09-09 11:18
Your Awpers will run like dog, when Russians Take out their Knives for You... Hahah LOL
2010-09-08 12:18
14 replies
lol ate supporters ive watch ur fuckin team @ MSI beat it challange.....i know our awpers ain't good enough when compared to international players BUT they're far better den urs....huh wts his nick rshkn u dont remember eswc nd uchiha sasuke hahaha
2010-09-08 12:23
oh n forgot.......whats gona happen when ur team's gona face MYM nd SK ill watch it live...haha...watchin u guyz gettin pawned is so fun hahahaha
2010-09-08 12:25
12 replies
Dude, I never Supported ATE or Bla Bla.. i dint even faith in them. But, Interestingly i've seen some of Hltv's of thier matches vs Like EYEsports, NIP, Fnatic .. i like them only in match VS FNATIC (TRAIN) (idk which Tourny).. they play like real pro. they used tactics, had good aim and won some 10 or 11 rounds(and fntic weren't Joking ingame) i guess.. which was heartily satisfying. Point is, i can say Anyday/Anytime FG, ForZe >>>>>>> ANY team in Pakistan TILL NOW ... DONT GET ME WRONG Peace
2010-09-08 13:12
11 replies
yea peace but dude i watchd hvK vs fnatic they took 8 rounds....no doubt fnatics far better den HvK(so called u5).....but dude do spectate bankai! ull know the level of awping.....3 times 4 FRAG rounds so.. PEACE
2010-09-08 21:40
10 replies
Now u shittin me, right.. Bhai, fnatic were Joking and fooling around all the time in Map(i.e D2 )... They used every gun except M4, AK, Awp, Dgle
2010-09-09 07:48
9 replies
so what do u think bhai wo Ate gaming ke against buht serious thai sue me yar MSi challange main hi dekhlo now v shouldn't argue anymore on this chill
2010-09-09 09:22
8 replies
There is a reason behind it...some fnatic were on vacation like 1 or 2 weeks, so they dint even got a chance for practice. and they some how managed to win against 4Kings(with elemeNt, face) in winter cyber games..i think Believe it or not, But its true..see demo if you want.
2010-09-09 12:40
7 replies
chalo yar u guyz r better but y do u always loose against us?
2010-09-09 16:22
6 replies
Hahahaha Here Nobody gives a Damn about these dumb/moronic matches, Neither do i. Read my comments before bashing me
2010-09-09 16:47
3 replies
look its not my fault dat u dont support ur country!
2010-09-09 17:04
2 replies
i can’t fix stupids..do you have any idea what im saying i dont like Noob teams and FFS you meant it as country wow.. Sure, I’ve seen people like you before. If you took an IQ test, the results would be negative... Retard
2010-09-09 17:25
1 reply
just fuck off dun pretend to b smthin very beeter den u ain't.....jao wasai b angreezon ke tatai chook ker hi bare hoai ho haahha
2010-09-09 18:08
beta wcg 2007 main ate nay mar kay rakh de thi hvk ki
2010-09-26 22:17
1 reply
it wasn't wcg wo invited tour tha hvk india gai thi.....wcg2007 pak IMMORTALZ jiti thi boi mujhe na sumajhao main tumharai se ziadah jaanta hon :)
2010-09-27 11:30
you know forze was 4th last year at WCG?
2010-09-07 15:19
AGREE !
2010-09-07 11:45
PlayMoreGO
2010-09-07 10:56
lol group e could turn out to be the group of death if ex burning and EG qualifies.
2010-09-07 10:58
rofl where is pg fuckig noobs
2010-09-07 11:01
2 replies
they qualified
2010-09-07 11:35
they dont have money to travel to USA
2010-09-07 15:20
Na`Vi easy :) first stage..
2010-09-07 11:02
idx isnt participating. no sponsors
2010-09-07 11:02
2 replies
sad Can you put the source of this news here?
2010-09-07 11:09
hey day are i talked to narotu last saturday
2010-09-07 11:11
This event is going to be awesome!!! + BURNING! (the team where Sixer and MAJ3R plays)
2010-09-07 11:06
1 reply
burning is awesome can create upsets
2010-09-07 11:12
waiting to see forze-vs-firegamers. I love bouth teams :D but ofc I more love forZe :D
2010-09-07 11:06
GL EVERYBODY
2010-09-07 11:08
you are stupid dudes? fnatic not game in WCG because boycotted wcg! LOL read news
2010-09-07 11:08
group H nice :D gl Romania
2010-09-07 11:08
FX and Tyloo in one group again... they meet each other or almost every tournament ;o Chinese always beating FX in bo1 and FX beating them in bo3/play offs I'm sure FX will lost at groupstage. Group E is kinda hard :/ + col/eg/loaded finals are in USA I'm sure two teams will represent USA and ex-Burning/Milenium from France
2010-09-07 11:09
Group F is silly :( Katana are k29 or ?
2010-09-07 11:09
2 replies
yep kinda lame actually
2010-09-07 15:14
1 reply
I would really like to know how FazerZ got seeded.
2010-09-07 17:27
P.S group E hard T_T
2010-09-07 11:10
#114
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Romania HAZAR:D
Easy for Earthquake
2010-09-07 11:10
2 replies
for 2nd maybe :)
2010-09-07 12:42
Not easy... B4g/wCrea are very strong...
2010-09-07 19:13
go go go i-Dx
2010-09-07 11:13
didnt Vatos Locos win the WCG.gr qual? www.worldcybergames.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=62
2010-09-07 11:10
1 reply
this is at last WCG greek qual, 2009 :p
2010-09-07 12:05
ATE is so lucky with groups everytime haha :D Group E looks like some serious pwnage...can't say who will come out on top...
2010-09-07 11:10
Power Gaming ? O_o
2010-09-07 11:11
1 reply
they dont have money to travel
2010-09-07 15:22
No i dont have it with me atm calmity. but i am pretty sure about this
2010-09-07 11:12
13 replies
no day are participating....as saudi is a good friend of narotu he told him
2010-09-07 11:14
12 replies
u dont know better then me. every member in idx is my close friend
2010-09-07 11:23
11 replies
then u5 should go.......sasuke is back in his form......boi he can compete wid faLLen
2010-09-07 11:26
10 replies
u5 is finished. carnage isnt in pakistan anymore
2010-09-07 11:28
7 replies
so what......they got pain killer,DOT,evil angel,sheep nd alot ov leets
2010-09-07 11:31
2 replies
pain killer, Evil Angle and dot ?????????? sheep is ok. Evil is not that good to be in the national squad right now.
2010-09-07 12:35
1 reply
but pain killer and DOT are able to play internationally.....pain killer is one ov da best shooters of pakistan
2010-09-07 14:08
what happened to u5? i thought they were quite decent...
2010-09-07 11:34
3 replies
People Went Abroad
2010-09-07 12:02
2 replies
:O eveyone?
2010-09-07 12:05
1 reply
na only carnage.....yaar tujhe ziadah pata hai...woh chahain tou poora Demise ya HEAT utha ker u5 buna suktai hain
2010-09-07 14:06
wazzup has better awp than respect walle(sasuke)
2010-09-26 22:19
1 reply
rocky respst walle sharpshooter hai he's no sasuke yar tujhe kuch pata b hai lol......sasuke aaj kul form main nai hai but he's legend for pakistanis dude u live under a rock? :P
2010-09-27 11:32
have money ?
2010-09-07 11:13
again tough group for ATE .. sad :| GL ATE :)
2010-09-07 11:13
GL Playmore that is a chance! KAMAN!~
2010-09-07 11:14
easy for wCrea
2010-09-07 11:15
playmore and entity can pass the groups ! :D gl brothers !
2010-09-07 11:15
+ de_cbble :) Its sick map!
2010-09-07 11:16
1 reply
sick map - fy_pool_day. Added :D
2010-09-07 11:20
GL Na'Vi easy group...
2010-09-07 11:17
idk why but gaming in pakistan and india is never sponsored. and that is why we cant compete international teams. how will the best teams of their respective countries improve if they keep on playing with the teams not of their caliber in every local tournament. every international team improves buy playing against every good team. i feel that india and pakistan are way better then these international teams because they play daily without expecting any money in gaming.
2010-09-07 11:18
3 replies
+1 In India, the society is busy producing software engineers, so there's a big dearth of good gamers.
2010-09-07 15:11
2 replies
bad internet and no money will never let them improve so amount of people does not matter
2010-09-07 19:40
1 reply
FVCK YOU VERY MUCH
2010-09-08 12:23
fs unlucky group for iM :\
2010-09-07 11:22
group E +EG and ex-burning probably. Hard group if thats the case
2010-09-07 11:25
group E will be so intresting to watch.
2010-09-07 11:26
frag executos , tyloo :o nice group
2010-09-07 11:26
gl forZe, mYm, Na`Vi, katana
2010-09-07 11:27
Na`Vi vs EG final :))))
2010-09-07 11:28
3 replies
NaVi final? H@H@H@HH@HH@H@H@H SK vs FX final
2010-09-07 11:32
1 reply
na Na`Vi...ill miss fnatic :(((
2010-09-07 11:34
mTw Fx final ; )
2010-09-07 20:15
where is eSuba ?
2010-09-07 11:30
Gl Earthquake !
2010-09-07 11:32
FNATICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC?
2010-09-07 11:32
2 replies
no top team in the world no spectator World Cyber Games SHIT SHIT
2010-09-07 11:41
1 reply
shut up pls.. there are top 5/6 teams in the world attending here...
2010-09-07 11:56
group E very difficult...
2010-09-07 11:32
3 replies
they always arrange 1 group as the difficult one
2010-09-07 11:35
2 replies
The teams are seeded and then the groups are made randomly... like any other sport O.o
2010-09-07 14:09
1 reply
:O
2010-09-07 14:12
Group E ... mm looks like a very hard group
2010-09-07 11:33
#171
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Greece her-1g
i wanna see the complete destroyed cs scene vs navi ahhahaha..if we hold a qualifier eventually :P
2010-09-07 11:34
1 reply
i dont think we are going to have a qualifier. nothing has been announced :/
2010-09-07 11:36
No K1CK no fun
2010-09-07 11:36
2 replies
no foxj :D
2010-09-07 11:40
trolololo
2010-09-07 19:06
they should invite another 5 teams so each group should have 4 teams in it.. PG, FNAT, CNB, MOUZ and TYLOO.raw
2010-09-07 11:37
A: wCrea bet4gamers b: Na'Vi ... c: forZe FG D: SK Gaming MYM E: Lions FRANCE F: MortalTeamWork G: FrageXecutors TyLoo H: wmf area51
2010-09-07 11:40
GO PLAYMORE!!!!!!! SRBIJA!!!!!!!
2010-09-07 11:43
gl Eq
2010-09-07 11:44
great !
2010-09-07 11:46
A: wCrea, ENTiTY B: Natus Viencere, Greece C: forZe, FireGamers D: SK-Gaming, Meet Your Makers E: Lions, France F: mTw, Katana G: Frag eXecutors, TyLoo H: WeMade FOX, Area51
2010-09-07 11:49
gl Eq
2010-09-07 11:49
go navi & forze :D
2010-09-07 11:51
ohooo great group :))
2010-09-07 11:52
3 replies
fucker :DDD
2010-09-07 11:58
1 reply
hahah true :)
2010-09-07 12:46
You can be 2 goo :D
2010-09-07 12:58
ate nd idx same group pl0x :( always fun to watch both countries compete against each other. :D
2010-09-07 11:53
C'mon PlayMore,u can do it now! :D GL guyz ;)
2010-09-07 11:54
there is 2 american spots for WCG i wonder which one is listed (Seed 1 or Seed 2) Turns out it's Seed 1 What screwed the group was Lions being Seed 2, when in reality they will place top 5.
2010-09-07 12:04
GROUP A: 1- wCREA 2- bet4gamers GROUP B: 1- Na'Vi 2- GROUP C: 1- FG 2- forZe GROUP D: 1- SK 2- mym GROUP E: 1- USA 2- FRANCE GROUP F: 1- mtw 2- GROUP G: 1- TyLoo 2- FX GROUP H: 1- WeMadeFOX 2- Area51 1st Place - SK 2nd Place - Na'Vi 3rd Place - USA GL! HF!
2010-09-07 11:57
1 reply
1 st SK or FX not NaVi and on wcg mTw > NaVi 100%
2010-09-07 14:13
GO ENTiTY, you can do it
2010-09-07 11:57
Frag executors gonna win this tournament! GL
2010-09-07 12:01
sux how no one is giving earthquake a shot of getting out of the groupstage :/ and even if they do ...2nd place of group a plays 1st place of group f ....MTW...
2010-09-07 12:01
germany?
2010-09-07 12:03
mTw invite and not invite k1ck sucks
2010-09-07 12:03
6 replies
mTw is not k1ck .. lol
2010-09-07 12:10
4 replies
oh seriously? only two said they have invited teams from some countries and Portugal that no qualifier for the cs 1.6 k1ck are not invited
2010-09-07 12:13
3 replies
mTw weren't invited. They won their spot by placing second in the Danish qualifier (much like Lions did in Sweden).
2010-09-07 12:23
Portugal most likely HAD a CS spot, but no one to pay for it, stop asking to get Denmarks freaking spots or money, jesus..
2010-09-07 12:38
1 reply
+1
2010-09-07 13:42
I miss K1ck too, they are really good
2010-09-07 16:29
we love ENTiTY
2010-09-07 12:08
where is Power Gaming?
2010-09-07 12:11
Where Power Gaming?
2010-09-07 12:12
#221
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Serbia MOCY
Gl playmore
2010-09-07 12:12
#223
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Bulgaria FAVORITE!
where is FNATIC ?
2010-09-07 12:14
1 reply
fnatic will not play
2010-09-07 12:16
go go go Eq!~ GL~
2010-09-07 12:18
teams can`t cross out maps? nuke bad for NaVi :((
2010-09-07 12:18
2 replies
#274
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Ukraine Nzr0
maybe they fixed it in holidays....
2010-09-07 12:57
There's 5 maps, it's not as if it's hard to be good at them all. Finals should be bo5 over all maps tbh.
2010-09-07 13:34
Group E + EG & Millenium Group of death o_O
2010-09-07 12:19
Dreamteam ?
2010-09-07 12:22
1 reply
i bet 1000%
2010-09-07 17:59
GO Na`Vi!!!
2010-09-07 12:23
gl Earthquake
2010-09-07 12:23
theres always 1 interesting group, and this year is E
2010-09-07 12:24
+ ser from georgian :P
2010-09-07 12:26
GO EXECUTIONERS FROM INDONESIA !
2010-09-07 12:27
GOGO FireGamers <3 fnx gl to Na`Vi and wCrea as well only one team from each group or two???
2010-09-07 12:29
fnatic refused to play, and powergaming and other nordic teams did not have funds to come to wcg... GROUP A: wCREA/EQ GROUP B: Na'Vi/Executioners GROUP C: FG/forZe GROUP D: SK/MYM GROUP E: USA/Lions GROUP F: mTw/Katana GROUP G: Fx/Tyloo GROUP H: PlayMore/WMF
2010-09-07 12:29
4 replies
You do realize Area51 is a pretty strong team right?
2010-09-07 17:02
3 replies
2-28 and 4-26 vs top teams @ arbalet dallas... I realize ok :)
2010-09-07 17:17
1 reply
Just don't count them out :-) You might get disappointed. Heh, one of the players even beat NiP 16 - 2 once back in the day.
2010-09-07 18:06
#819
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Brazil hugoooo
lol dude, they are not...
2010-09-08 00:58
GO GO FRAG EXECUTORS KURWA ! +3 WCG :).
2010-09-07 12:29
group of death for ate yet again....anyways.....good luck guys....
2010-09-07 12:29
No fnatic :(
2010-09-07 12:29
GO GO PLAYMORE!! =DD
2010-09-07 12:31
GL Na'Vi
2010-09-07 12:33
FG > FORZE ON ALL MAPS :)
2010-09-07 12:33
group E :-ss
2010-09-07 12:34
if -overdrive +F1_N forZe top-3 i think
2010-09-07 12:35
Group D and G are the toughest ones :o
2010-09-07 12:35
where is georgia? :/
2010-09-07 12:39
EXECUTIONERS : fer, bali, nextwins, grayson, pwjrN
2010-09-07 12:40
Very nice groups for wCrea and mTw so far.
2010-09-07 12:41
E N T i T Y GO!
2010-09-07 12:43
YEAHHHH!! PLAYMOREEEE :) U CAN PASS GROUPS GUYSS JUST HAVE HOPE!!! ;)
2010-09-07 12:47
2 replies
agree.. not so tough opponents.. if u dont count wmf..
2010-09-07 12:55
1 reply
yeah ... wmf is strong, playmore can beat others ;P
2010-09-07 13:38
Group E will be pretty sick. Lions, -M-/EX.BURNING!, EG Will be interesting ^^
2010-09-07 12:48
GOGOGOGO EQQQQ
2010-09-07 12:49
mTw !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2010-09-07 12:49
eSuba wont go coz of organisators of WCG czech qualification > they dont have enough money ;( just the winners of FIFA and Trackmania will go ...
2010-09-07 12:54
#271
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Ukraine santosjke
A1 - F2 E1 - B2 C1 - H2 G1 - D2 B1 - E2 F1 - A2 D1 - G2 H1 - C2
2010-09-07 12:54
#273
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Ukraine Nzr0
no offense but i think navi have easy group..... i think that 2 teams for they will be like warmup ;D
2010-09-07 12:56
#276
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China Atlas.H
goooooo!!! mtw and tyloo =DDDDDDDD
2010-09-07 12:59
I can sse there so many teams that kick would k1ck from the tournment, sad that they aren't here
2010-09-07 13:00
it will be very interesting to see what wCrea will perform against EQ and B4G in group A :>
2010-09-07 13:02
14 replies
in group A any team can take first place
2010-09-07 13:04
13 replies
i dont agree... i dont see entity have any chance against those teams...
2010-09-07 13:09
12 replies
You have low knowledge on CS then ;p They can surely beat any team there, especially if wCrea performs badly as they can sometimes.
2010-09-07 14:21
11 replies
wait and see:) u must be the one with low knowledge .. they need a good day if they wanna win against B4G or wCrea
2010-09-07 16:45
8 replies
I know all 4 teams perfectly well, and you don't, you are just guessing because you probably don't even recognize the flag :)))))) They do need a good day, but surely ain't gonna lose 28-2 like some Mideast teams do.
2010-09-07 17:26
7 replies
im not really guessing... the matches ive watched with entity they have performed bad, and im not saying they will lose big im just saying the other teams wont have too many problems beating them.
2010-09-07 18:06
6 replies
maybe u saw their last match online vs Alternate where they can't perform well cause internet. They were playin on a german server:)
2010-09-07 19:12
5 replies
saw them at ESWC... :o
2010-09-07 20:02
4 replies
this year they wasn't at eswc maybe it was before 3-4 years they are much better now :)
2010-09-07 20:29
2 replies
mhm then it was some other lan.. i know they faced some good teams without doing any damage and they looked very confused.. for example mTw..
2010-09-07 20:36
1 reply
And NO, that's also not possible, since ENTiTY created new team just few months ago, and didn't even attend ANY LAN so far. FAIL?
2010-09-07 21:10
I told you you are guessing. They were not even present at ESWC :P:P
2010-09-07 21:09
they won all their matches as wcrea so far lol, although I agree they could fuck up
2010-09-07 17:30
#820
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Brazil hugoooo
ROFL
2010-09-08 01:00
SK !
2010-09-07 13:03
LOL how do these groups get made Group A - 0 good teams Group B - 1 good team Group C - 2 good teams Group D - 2 good teams Group E - 3 good teams Group F - 1 good team Group G - 2 good teams Group H - 1 good team GJ WCG
2010-09-07 13:04
3 replies
www.wcg.com/6th/2010/drawing/drawing_player_stage.asp?itemno=9
2010-09-07 13:12
group A 0 good teams? are you retard? what do you think about wCrea? they are not weak.. THey are a very good team. If they were able to beat mTw in bo3 match they must be good at least
2010-09-07 14:25
1 reply
+1
2010-09-07 16:09
gl eq
2010-09-07 13:04
Navi first then SK then bet4gamers i think
2010-09-07 13:04
1 reply
nice joke...
2010-09-07 14:46
Nice ^^ wCrea and mTw :P
2010-09-07 13:05
1 reply
keep out of k29's way =)
2010-09-07 13:12
Group A: wCrea, bet4gamers Group B: NAVI, Greece (Vatos Locos??) Group C: FireGamers, Forze Group D: SK, MYM Group E: Lions, USA (EG???) Group F: mTw, k29 Group G: Tyloo, FX Group H: WMF, Newave.PLAYMORE
2010-09-07 13:06
3 replies
Vatos Locos does not exist any more
2010-09-07 16:48
2 replies
then what's ur top team? they will be the second in their group anyway :D
2010-09-08 08:45
1 reply
Delinquent Habits but i doubt there will be a qual so...:D
2010-09-08 13:35
Good Luck PlayMore !!! TRPAJ~
2010-09-07 13:09
www.wcg.com/6th/2010/drawing/drawing_player_stage.asp?itemno=9
2010-09-07 13:11
fx vs sk in the final ;)
2010-09-07 13:13
1 reply
no ^^, Frag-eXecutors vs mTw ;).
2010-09-07 13:44
fnatic ? EG ?
2010-09-07 13:13
FUCK, WCG, The best AWP , k1ck. Fox (Portugal) isn't present , the best team (Fnatic) isn't present FUCK WCG PS: Is esay for Na'Vi
2010-09-07 13:15
8 replies
who told u fox is the best awp? xD
2010-09-07 13:17
lol, in your dreams
2010-09-07 13:17
who cares fnatic never wins WCG anyway FX mTw WMF MYM SK EG Lions FireGamers wCrea France TyLoo forZe awesome turnout nevertheless playoff bracket will be exciting
2010-09-07 13:37
yeah sucks
2010-09-07 14:04
the best awper is already here u retard ....Yegor Markelov .... the best aimer however is missing get_right/f0rest ...one of them .... i guess we can settle with neo?
2010-09-07 14:06
3 replies
almost agree with you.. markeloff is the best but Delpan and FalleN are damn good like him.. So you should have at least mentioned them ;) However.. Fnatic is missing.. Its always good to have fnatic in any tournament :D
2010-09-07 14:28
2 replies
thank god... its good to see normal portuguese ppl for once & not the k1ck fanboys.. :)
2010-09-07 18:00
1 reply
im not k1ck fanboy.. and I dont like them..
2010-09-07 18:09
Looking forward to see WMF vs NW.PM ! Gl Entity & Playmore.
2010-09-07 13:16
Line-up USA, FRANCE?
2010-09-07 13:23
2 replies
USA (american1, american2, american3, american4, american5) France (frenchman1, frenchman2, frenchman3, frenchman4, frenchman5) ps. i ne blagodari a to obizhys'
2010-09-07 13:26
i dont know about france ...but i can guarantee USA's team is gonna be EG
2010-09-07 14:05
GL playmore, polivaj sirotinju :)
2010-09-07 13:24
Did WCG pay Mtw's trip? If they did, that's lame
2010-09-07 13:27
wcg this year is a shit , no fnatic no wcg
2010-09-07 13:28
9 replies
...to get raped in the final, as usual?
2010-09-07 13:30
6 replies
sad that all retarded FX fanboys have internet access:(.
2010-09-07 14:53
yes , in gamegune fnatic win frag executors in final
2010-09-07 15:39
3 replies
they also raped FX in estars SEOUL.. so beside the 2009 WCG final I don't know any recent victory of FX over fnatic..
2010-09-07 16:06
2 replies
fnatic is the best team in the world fnatic > sk fnatic > mtw fnatic > navi no fnatic no wcg
2010-09-07 16:08
1 reply
Please dont write these nonsense... Cause fnatic got scared of failing at WCG once again, they did not come and made some stupid excuse... fnatic isnt the best team in the world, they have the best aimers and the best individuals.. The best team is NaVi, and they will prove it until end of the year! GL Ukraine! GL homeland Serbia :)
2010-09-07 17:20
"as usual" fnatic have only been in one wcg final(?)
2010-09-07 18:22
fnatic have chosen by themself not to be in this tournament, so maybe they're shit ? Or maybe 'cause there arent any single team from portugal? I' saying this only cause i hate fan boys who can write anything for whole tournament 'cause "their" team doesnt play. Who cares about fnatic, everyone watch and hoping for best game for team from own country. That should be wcg.
2010-09-07 13:33
1 reply
correct. ++++
2010-09-07 13:55
Hollymothergod forZe vs. FG - A Match to Watch !
2010-09-07 13:33
where is fnatic?:D
2010-09-07 13:34
go SK =) .
2010-09-07 13:37
Group A: wCrea bet4gamer Group B: NaVi Greece Group C: FireGamers i-DX(I hope to see one diffrent Pakistan team.) Group D: SK-Gaming MYM Sad really sad for India :( again hard group Group E: Lions USA Group F: mTw Katana Group G: Frag eXecutors TyLoo!!!!!!!!!!! Group H: WMF Area51 Good luck !
2010-09-07 13:38
2 replies
Not sure if you've realised, but india would be the worst team in any group they were in...
2010-09-07 13:56
1 reply
even F ? :D
2010-09-07 15:20
i would like to see k1ck
2010-09-07 13:39
4 replies
here you go bro k1ck.com/09/team/
2010-09-07 13:42
3 replies
hhahahaha owned :D
2010-09-07 14:50
first learn to link ... www.k1ck.com/09/team/
2010-09-07 15:47
1 reply
+1
2010-09-10 16:16
GO EXECUTIONERS !!! GROUP B - NaVi - EXECUTIONERS
2010-09-07 13:41
go bet4gamers!!
2010-09-07 13:43
Immunty LOL :D:D:DD::D this guys so unlucky
2010-09-07 13:44
FAIL WCG ORGAS :FACEPALM:
2010-09-07 13:46
gogo bet4gamers! easy group!
2010-09-07 13:48
This edition is gonna suck pretty much cause there is no german team and no fnatic, which both provided some very hot matches :| Oh well, GL Eq and I hope you provide the surprise that TeG did last year.
2010-09-07 13:48
gl entity gl playmore!
2010-09-07 13:52
Obamanationn LOL yeah fnatic isn't good they are noob ! stfu
2010-09-07 13:52
GOGO PLAYMORE! Gl entity!
2010-09-07 13:54
Group A:ENTITY Group B:Na`Vi Group C:FireGamers Group D:SK Gaming Group E:Lions Group F:mTw Group G:Frag eXecutors Group H:nwave.Playmore :) This I would like to be ;)
2010-09-07 13:57
1 reply
be = see ?
2010-09-07 14:02
mTw group lol :D
2010-09-07 13:58
how come 2 teams from sweden? it was only one right?
2010-09-07 13:59
1 reply
wake up .. lions organization decided to send them ...
2010-09-07 14:01
Go Russia, go Na'Vi
2010-09-07 13:59
lmao@portugal
2010-09-07 14:01
lol its funny to see k1ck fanboys spam: WCG SUCKS, WCG IS SHIT blah blah blah lots of good teams are attending : FX, mTw, Navi, SK, Lions, Tyloo, wmf, FG, EG, wCrea, forze, burning etc.. sadly fnatic n mouz are not attending.. but its going to b a great tournament nevertheless.. So STFU already...
2010-09-07 14:03
8 replies
a tua mae o que?
2010-09-07 14:06
7 replies
you just proved my point that k1ck fanboys are indeed pathetic.. here: k1ck > all now go away..
2010-09-07 14:26
6 replies
indian team? oh no in indian sucks lames noobs
2010-09-07 14:47
5 replies
"in indian sucks" lol... kid you should b attending english classes rather thn posting shit here..
2010-09-07 15:01
4 replies
u talk talk talk about ptfanboys but k1ck is mutch mutch better than your indian team. but they will not participate, your luck :) and yes, my english is bad :)
2010-09-07 16:24
3 replies
but indian fanboys arent flaming
2010-09-07 17:33
2 replies
yeah in india 1/50000 has internet, thats the reason ;)
2010-09-07 19:29
1 reply
You just Showed our Strength. If we'll piss .. ur country will face one of the deadliest flood of your lifetime..ha ha
2010-09-08 12:33
forZe lineup? MYM lineup? somebody, please? FG is nak, btt, bit, fnx and bruno (ell), in case anybody was wondering.
2010-09-07 14:03
3 replies
MYM: edik, hoochR, ROMJKE2H, xek, Xoma forZe: Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov Alexey 'OverDrive' Birukov Sergey 'Fox' Stolyarov Aleksey 'HEL1' Novikov Ruslan 'Dober' Shariffylin I'm not sure about forze lineup
2010-09-07 14:35
1 reply
sure
2010-09-07 14:59
Wrong FG line-up. His roster is: nak, fnx, bit1, bruno and FalleN.
2010-09-07 14:43
also, wasn't the "USB mix team" that won wcg russia?
2010-09-07 14:04
1 reply
I was stupid, sorry, MYM = usb :D
2010-09-07 14:46
go go SK , moddiie <3 oneeSt
2010-09-07 14:04
Teams excluded from the draw, I propose a re-draw!
2010-09-07 14:05
6 replies
seconded! :D
2010-09-07 14:15
5 replies
Appreciate the support, but its impossible for the worst team at the event (ATE-Gaming) to get an easy group. Sorry champ0ZZ.
2010-09-07 14:17
4 replies
coming from second worst team out thr? lol one shouldnt be so cocky unless you are very good, you know?
2010-09-07 14:22
3 replies
I can see 4 groups that iM would comfortably top2 in.
2010-09-07 14:27
2 replies
well good for you =))
2010-09-07 14:38
#688
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India h8or
Kool Story Bro!
2010-09-07 19:12
Go Go Go Macedonia!
2010-09-07 14:07
hf ate :) :)
2010-09-07 14:10
gl mym, forze, NaVi and Playmore
2010-09-07 14:11
NaVi/FX/SK, one of this will take the 1st spot.
2010-09-07 14:11
group E... group of death
2010-09-07 14:12
Kaman NeWawe ! gl Entity :)
2010-09-07 14:12
it would be fair that every country has their own wcg qualification. and sweden should have atleast 2 spot for wcg 2010 but like in finland seriously needs to win like one of the top teams in world to get in wcg. i just dont get it.
2010-09-07 14:15
1 reply
every country should have one team, 2 is no sense for me, but it's okey..:)
2010-09-07 19:17
no fnatic . no burning ;S gl all ;)
2010-09-07 14:16
1 reply
not but there is : wCrea, FG , mTw , MYN , lions , TyLoo , FX , WMF , navi and EG.
2010-09-07 14:33
no fnatic no party:(.
2010-09-07 14:18
eSuba?
2010-09-07 14:18
Wont be a real tournament without fnatic. Na'vi will win and we'll never get to see whos the best of Na'vi and fnatic.
2010-09-07 14:19
4 replies
don`t be that sure , there are a couple of teams who can beat na`vi.
2010-09-07 14:27
1 reply
On a good day, only fnatic can beat Na'vi.
2010-09-07 14:34
Na'Vi will lose to k23 (WCG qualified) list needs to be updated, all im saying is fnatic will never return to 2009 form and dont expect Na'Vi to sweep this year , the days of teams owning the competition for 12 months are over .. the competition is way to high now for these things to happen i do believe , mTw vs FX final (PGS vs NoA) classic!
2010-09-07 14:34
1 reply
even without 2009 form they are still better than almost all of the teams.. few are at their level..
2010-09-07 14:51
hehe FX vs tyloo again :) Well , go tyloo and WeMadeFOX and of course SK :P
2010-09-07 14:20
HF PLAYMORE! :)
2010-09-07 14:23
n e W a v e . P l a y M o r e
2010-09-07 14:23
1. Fx 2. WMF 3. Sk/NaVi/wCrea 100 % resulsts !!!
2010-09-07 14:23
ITS TIME FOR DREAMTEAM AGAIN :PP
2010-09-07 14:23
Goo ENTITY
2010-09-07 14:25
Nice group for neWawe.Playmore
2010-09-07 14:26
No fnatic?
2010-09-07 14:26
Poor i-DX
2010-09-07 14:29
problem: either F.azer.Z or Katana will go to the playoffs while either Lions/EG or ex-Burning will not advance to the playoffs. solution: move either EG or ex-Burning to group F with MTW.
2010-09-07 14:31
2 replies
well, maybe the Frech team will not advance, cuz Lions and EG are stronger IMO
2010-09-07 14:34
1 reply
ehhmm did u read his comment correctly..? :) Your reply seems strange to what he wrote..
2010-09-07 15:28
no fnatic ,fnatic quit cs ;) fnatic play now tetris ; D Fx 1St !
2010-09-07 14:32
ex BURNING will win WCGFRANCE 2010;)
2010-09-07 14:34
Why isent their 4 in each group instead of 4 in some and 3 in the rest? And its amazin that their are no German teams there after what i see and no norwegian or finnish teams either, but they got 2 teams from denmark and 2 from sweden and alot of teams i never have heard of.
2010-09-07 14:35
1 reply
how would you divide that up? Its not possible.. 7 Teams wouldnt add up in the end :)
2010-09-07 15:34
without fnatic in the tournament, i hope for FG/SK/Lions :D
2010-09-07 14:36
i-DX got a realli hectic group.
2010-09-07 14:36
Love that no1 thinks PM can pass the group we preform well when we are the underdogs :D
2010-09-07 14:37
Playmore FTW... :D just kidding. Funny there is no fnatic my fav team :D. Then SK FTW think they and NAVI in finals :D
2010-09-07 14:40
3 replies
samo kad kgr i confy proradE :D
2010-09-07 14:42
2 replies
confy nece igrati na wcg izbacili su ga igrace egzekutor iz bgdonline
2010-09-13 14:26
1 reply
Špitza =) fino ..
2010-09-13 14:37
1.mTw 2.Lions/SK/Na'Vi 3.FG/FX
2010-09-07 14:43
1 reply
rotflmao
2010-09-07 14:45
b4g w1n
2010-09-07 14:43
Earthquake lu : SeDaN DecE SZR bEe SNAPPLE
2010-09-07 14:45
10 replies
have u prepared ur ass for todays football match? xD
2010-09-07 14:54
9 replies
our team is shit..and the coach also so belarus easy win...our football sux ass big time...
2010-09-07 15:13
5 replies
unexpected view.. r u rly romanian?
2010-09-07 15:18
4 replies
if we couldn't beat Albania at home which is a 3rd world country in fotball at least.. what do you think? we are just realists..
2010-09-07 15:59
3 replies
oh man, i thought romanians have another opinion about this match. is everything really so bad?)
2010-09-07 16:13
2 replies
for the moment there is no light at the end of the tunnel:(..
2010-09-07 16:27
1 reply
belarus 0:0 romania sad but true
2010-09-08 08:46
hope so:D
2010-09-07 15:14
1 reply
we'll see man =)
2010-09-07 15:16
3-0 bye!
2010-09-07 16:27
Hoping for Lions and SK!
2010-09-07 14:47
gl -Eq-
2010-09-07 14:49
Gl all but most of luck I wish to playmore :D
2010-09-07 14:49
all years less countries in the wcg of cs. Why? they dont help to national qualifiers like years ago. Fix it or WCG will dead like the old ESWC.
2010-09-07 14:49
I think group E and G look a bit harsh, especially E. France and USA together with Lions and Immunity in the same group means that at least one top caliber will get eliminated early on. I guess we will see some fierce competition at least ;) I'm looking forward to this WCG.
2010-09-07 14:51
byebye poland :DDD tyloo will crush them!
2010-09-07 14:51
1 reply
Do you remember WCG 2009 ?
2010-09-07 15:29
that WCG could be nice))
2010-09-07 14:52
1\8 final wCrea>K29 Lion>&#1043;&#1088;&#1077;&#1094;&#1080;&#1103; Forze>Area51 Tyloo<MYM Navi>France mTw>B4G SK>FX WMF>FireGamers 1\4 final wcrea<Lions Forze>MYm Navi>mTw SK>WMF 1\2 final Lions>Forze Navi>SK Final NAVI>Lions 1-Navi 2-Lions 3-SK
2010-09-07 14:52
4 replies
dreams...
2010-09-07 14:53
navi? hah
2010-09-07 14:59
how do you know who will play with.. in brackets????
2010-09-07 15:43
HAHAHAHAHAH FOR SURE u are so fkin funny
2010-09-07 16:32
So sad... esuba had qualified, but cannot attend, because of money situation :((
2010-09-07 14:58
gl fx
2010-09-07 14:59
A: wCrea, bet4gamers B: Natus Vincere, "Greece" C: FireGamers, forZe D: SK Gaming, Meet Your Makers E: Lions, Evil Geniuses F: mTw, Katana G: Frag eXecutors, TyLoo H: WeMadeFOX, Area51
2010-09-07 14:59
where is the new zealand team?
2010-09-07 15:02
Immunty is most unlucky draw group stage team in history
2010-09-07 15:04
1 reply
you may be right haha, they are always in ****ed up situations.
2010-09-07 15:16
Gl Eq:D
2010-09-07 15:05
-i-Dx won't be Attending tHE Event =[[....Visa'S ProbleM
2010-09-07 15:11
goo go SK !
2010-09-07 15:14
man..GL to Eq, hard group.
2010-09-07 15:15
no fnatic, no german team, sad
2010-09-07 15:21
entity have chances:D
2010-09-07 15:26
GO INDIA GO <3 maah country :P
2010-09-07 15:26
TYLOO will be lucky this time. alex,tb,xf,gr,karl gogogo
2010-09-07 15:28
SK-Gaming go go
2010-09-07 15:32
A: wCrea, bet4gamers B: Natus Vincere, "Greece" C: FireGamers, forZe D: SK Gaming, Meet Your Makers E: Lions, Evil Geniuses F: mTw, Katana G: Frag eXecutors, TyLoo H: WeMadeFOX, Area51 PD : GO B4G ;DDD
2010-09-07 15:32
1 reply
2010-09-07 18:11
i-dx Gl
2010-09-07 15:37
EG + FNATIC
2010-09-07 15:38
GL FX !
2010-09-07 15:39
hard 4 mTw
2010-09-07 15:39
go go neWave.PlayMore
2010-09-07 15:43
i know that Na`Vi want to very win WCG,but it will be very hard for them,TyLoo,FX,wCrea i think this three teams will take top3 =] btw can someone give me lineup of belarus KATANA,i know that k23 is KATANa :D wtf ? :D
2010-09-07 15:52
gl neWave.PlayMore
2010-09-07 15:52
line up of EearthQuake?
2010-09-07 15:52
forze lineup?
2010-09-07 15:54
Good Luck Fire Gamers
2010-09-07 15:53
#499
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Ukraine gungrave
www.goodgame.ru/tinyfck/my_images/Image/__users/sayhell0/shema.jpg brackets!!!
2010-09-07 15:53
Fx hard on start omg :f
2010-09-07 15:55
plss tell the reasons why fnatic did not participate i dont know!!!
2010-09-07 15:57
1 reply
www.hltv.org/news/4771-fnatic-announce-wcg-boycott
2010-09-07 16:13
Easy, WCG is very big event and only the most expirienced teams can compete ;) I can't see any team who can be big suprise, maybe only FG but it depends on their performance and brackets GL all #502 as i heared they are boycotting WCG this year because of bad organization or something like this... You can read it somewhere else or someone who will know it for sure will tell u ;d
2010-09-07 16:02
Eq = SeDaN,DecE,SNAPPLE,SZR and maybe bEe
2010-09-07 16:00
dreamteam ?
2010-09-07 16:01
2 replies
The event will officially start the 30th of September. Now is 7th September.
2010-09-07 16:06
1 reply
oh sorry didnt read :D thnx anyway m8
2010-09-07 16:33
wtf look at group H!, how are the groups drawn?? :O
2010-09-07 16:02
Group D's just sad :[]
2010-09-07 16:02
No fnatic????
2010-09-07 16:02
gl hf i-Dx :) :) I was expecting u5 :O
2010-09-07 16:03
2 replies
#455 says idx nt attending..visa problems?
2010-09-08 13:53
1 reply
but i got to know that u5 had da visa problems... ! in btw my indian fellows, where is NSD..? seems not attending WCG this time..!
2010-09-13 20:44
FX will take this c'moN
2010-09-07 16:04
no german teams ???
2010-09-07 16:06
forze - Dober Fox OverDrive Dosia HEL1 write?
2010-09-07 16:06
1 reply
write-write... write on the blackboard at school? right?
2010-09-07 16:16
No Norwegian team?
2010-09-07 16:07
SERBIA IS SACK NOW FROM WE MADE FOX
2010-09-07 16:08
i-DX lineup?
2010-09-07 16:08
hahahha no fnatic xDDDDDDDDDDD
2010-09-07 16:09
An event in LA, AWESOME!
2010-09-07 16:10
no fnatic hahah! GO FX!!
2010-09-07 16:14
nyc... ! GL All.. !
2010-09-07 16:15
gogogo FIREGAMERS
2010-09-07 16:20
#533
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Romania BTNBTN
A: 1.Eq 2.wCrea
2010-09-07 16:21
1.fx 2.navi 3.mtw 4.sk 5.lions 6.tyloo imo.
2010-09-07 16:23
Eq will win the group :) gl
2010-09-07 16:23
Gogo executioner !! =D looks like im the only one who support team from my country lol
2010-09-07 16:24
fnatic will end up 1st even without attending :D no, seriously, I really hope Na'Vi will be back on top for this event, I want to see them in the grand final against SK or FX (and kick their asses).
2010-09-07 16:25
Natus Vincere
2010-09-07 16:28
GO Entity , GO PlayMore :))
2010-09-07 16:30
Favorites? Na'Vi , SK , mTw , FX and Lions
2010-09-07 16:32
Oh man, no love for EG past the group stages!
2010-09-07 16:32
WEMADEFOX GOGO POWERRANGERS
2010-09-07 16:33
its a strong field.. but for a WCG its kinda dissapointing. whatever the reasons are and whoever's feet the blame lies at, its sad that teams from certain countries wont be attending.
2010-09-07 16:33
Navi vs Lions Big Final Sk vs FX 3 place mtw france USA MYM
2010-09-07 16:34
1 SK 2 Fx/mTw 3 Lions 4 Na'vi
2010-09-07 16:34
have fun bro's from macedonia :))) gogo playmore i hope u do something...
2010-09-07 16:34
Group A: wCrea + bet4gamers Group B: Na'Vi + Executioners Group C: forZe + FireGamers Group D: SK Gaming + MYM Group E: Lions + EG(most likely, if not then France) Group F: mTw + Katana Group G: fX + TyLoo Group H: WMF + Area51 All in all, I don't see any upsets happening like in pretty much every WCG. France team could do some damage in Group E but other than that, the lower tier teams just can't rival with the top. That's how WCG is, boring group stage but then it gets exciting!
2010-09-07 16:34
8 replies
couldnt agree more for ur choice. bt the ranking's up in the air.
2010-09-07 16:38
You got it right!
2010-09-07 17:29
neWave can be problem for [51], Area isn't that good to be sure, imo they r on same level it's gonna be a close game :)
2010-09-07 19:29
You will fail in at least 2 groups there, maybe even 3. Let's wait and see.
2010-09-07 20:56
4 replies
Funny how you pretend to know that I will fail in at least 2 groups and then say let's wait and see... that's pretty much saying you are wrong about 2 groups so I predict something else and I'm right. What ever.
2010-09-07 23:32
3 replies
Hm...no...you will fail AT LEAST 2 groups, and YOU can wait and see for yourself. I'm very sure of it :)
2010-09-08 00:26
2 replies
And I'm pretty sure we have THEORETICALLY the same chances of having the right predictions. Okay, thanks for your time.
2010-09-08 00:43
1 reply
No, I have higher chances :P Have a nice day.
2010-09-08 01:10
EXECUTIONERS ? o.o
2010-09-07 16:41
Na'Vi
2010-09-07 16:41
NaVi - Tyloo/Lions final 1. NaVi 2. Tyloo 3. Sk 4. Lions heard it here first.
2010-09-07 16:46
3 replies
Navi max second place, top3 is real
2010-09-07 16:49
tyloo? hahahahahahahah
2010-09-07 16:51
1 reply
If you look at brackets that's what it looks like. To get into finals tyloo has to beat FX, then MYM, then FG and then lions which I think they are capable of. It is MUCH harder for NaVi though! First they need to beat EG(or ex Burning) then mTw and then SK( or FX or WMF or forze).. But they've done it before so everything is in their hands.
2010-09-07 17:24
Katana top1 infa 100%
2010-09-07 16:47
fnatic bitched out, they could of played in Nordic and won. But really if you consider Nordic teams, there are four of them since Denmark is included in Nordic. But I guess four spots is not good enough. Also a lot of this isn't not WCG's fault but the local hosts who do not wish to buy the license and hold the satellite event for qualifying.
2010-09-07 16:51
tyloo is good only in asia, they can't be top3 in his land, so in USA they will be out after group stage
2010-09-07 16:52
gl AZER! <3
2010-09-07 16:55
Na'Vi GO! If Edward will play as he played on IEM or ESWC and with new starix they have good chances to win.
2010-09-07 16:55
semifinal FX vs mTw.
2010-09-07 16:55
finally :D
2010-09-07 17:00
But these drawings are pretty stupid. I mean top USA, Top Swedish, and Top French team will all fight for 1 spot when they should be separate. Also Immunity is nothing to gawk at either.
2010-09-07 17:04
E N T I T Y
2010-09-07 17:04
no german team ? lol +fnatic +mousesports +PG +K1CK
2010-09-07 17:06
go FG for brazil and south america
2010-09-07 17:07
2 replies
I like this. The South America united is more stronger.
2010-09-07 17:43
1 reply
+1
2010-09-07 18:19
gouuuuuuuuuuu ENTITY,gouuuuuu PM!!!
2010-09-07 17:08
GO WEMADEFOX! GO TYLOO!
2010-09-07 17:11
gl wCrea & mTw
2010-09-07 17:19
gl ate
2010-09-07 17:19
FG <3 Go Brazil!!
2010-09-07 17:20
I can see my dreamteam :DDDDD Friis/ave/starix/g0g1/nEn0 hope they will give funds for these 5 :D
2010-09-07 17:23
3 replies
this is an insult for g0g1 and nENO xD
2010-09-07 19:37
2 replies
No it isnt, cause I know them personaly both, and I know what great level of play they will produce in LA :) Wait, and see :)
2010-09-08 20:06
1 reply
good point :D
2010-09-08 20:35
if NaVi not face with France(burning i hope) probably going to final :D
2010-09-07 17:24
1 reply
haha yee NaVi have some serious problems with french teams,without fnatic on this tourn NaVi can go easy in a final!
2010-09-07 18:34
sk vs fx :)
2010-09-07 17:29
Group E very hard!
2010-09-07 17:36
135# there is a hope for pakistani players ! :) dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\08\30\story_30-8-2010_pg13_5
2010-09-07 17:39
1 reply
Nice 2 see the media supporting the egamers...more of that and india-pak teams can excel..
2010-09-08 13:54
final fx vs navi
2010-09-07 17:45
I wish Power Gaming had won the Nordic Qualifier Final vs SK :(. That way we'd still see both SK and Lions there, but a Finnish team would also be present.
2010-09-07 17:51
GO FX my BROTHERSSS:D:D
2010-09-07 17:57
where fnatic and other teams?//
2010-09-07 17:58
1 reply
#626
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Ukraine ritN
stupid question
2010-09-07 18:07
Go ENTiTY
2010-09-07 18:01
dreamteam?
2010-09-07 18:02
#621
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Ukraine ritN
1. Na`Vi 2. Lions 3. SK 4. TyLoo
2010-09-07 18:06
3 replies
SK has been really good the latests games and Na'Vi have not so I think SK will beat Na'vi.
2010-09-07 18:08
2 replies
#645
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Ukraine ritN
Na`Vi dream - win three most important tournaments in a year : IEM, ESWC, and last WCG They will battle!!! this not ASUS or GG...
2010-09-07 18:22
1 reply
Indeed, you got a good point but I think TEAM SK really wants to win this too, will be a fun tournament
2010-09-07 18:28
Grp E seems to be hardest imo
2010-09-07 18:07
bolshe grupp ne budet ? jdem 5 komand ?
2010-09-07 18:08
1 Na`Vi 2 FX 3 SK GAMING 4 WMF
2010-09-07 18:08
I think Na`Vi take this. 1.Na`Vi 2.Sk 3.mTw
2010-09-07 18:09
Shuld be easey for alla top teams in the world to advace to the next round :)
2010-09-07 18:12
2 replies
all* lol
2010-09-07 18:12
1 reply
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2010-09-07 21:27
rofl ate tough group again :\ if only Pakistan and ate were in the same group lottsa fun :)
2010-09-07 18:13
C D E G - good groups i think fx - navi/mtw
2010-09-07 18:16
loool 1.SK 2.Na'vi 3.mTw
2010-09-07 18:17
A = wCrea B = Na`Vi C = forZe D = SK Gaming D = Lions E = mTw F = Fx G = WMF
2010-09-07 18:18
ENTITY ENTiTY.aswd ntt ntt.aswd <3 Macedonia
2010-09-07 18:19
i hope for WMF to win... It's about time...
2010-09-07 18:20
Well, for every team except the Groups B and G the 2nd spot of the Group is a spot that can be 'called'. There are pretty many balanced teams in every group so it will be a bit tough to see which team will progress. To comment to the matter of Greece. The Greek scene is going to inactivity or whatever the latest 2-1,5 years. There aren't even lan tours happening and the majority of the top players doesn't have motivation in order to stay focused on the game, so many are departing or leaving the scene. And at this time many players who in past years where not so good as the top there are joining team teams because there is no one better than them! The level of the top teams there except LT,Dh and a bit of NEVERMORE isnt as good as it seems. However, even though the greek players carry many problems (in-game and character), there are some players who can definately achieve and play the old top level that some years ago it used to be. And like the ESWC GR Qualifiers fiasco, it seems that WCG Quals also are not going to happen. If we count that the tournament starts 30 September and now we have 7, are the team and the organization for tha travel will be ready to play high, or even travel easily? To the in-game possibilities know, even though i am not a player who 'rised' in the scene, i am pretty smart to judge the level and the skill of the teams there. And for this i am going to say 1-2 things that and the other countrymates can judge this too. The most satisfying team in Greece is DH, due to the level of 4 of the 5 players (Quaker,Castigar,Major,AVEL) - unk not so good but a satisfying awp-player but this team have managed a bit awkward achievement. Even though the 'best' it hasn't won the majority of the lan tournaments that happen there. But they have lost 3 times (and a EPS title) from NEVERMORE a team which has 5 good aimers with some experience all over these years (skiner,averol,gorenje) etc. but they didn't have an lan winning this years (going to play in IEM Season Qualyfing Rounds). And for the end LT is the most successful team from the beginning having won 3 tournaments out of 3 and also had a very good presentation at the EBL Season 2. The top perfomance of some of their players in the likes of WaR and FORGIVEN (ex Begrip.GRE,24'7 players - current captains of Greece National Team) are keeping the team at the top level but this team doesn't seem to have a same level fith-player (fronimos) and the other two guys of their team arent so stable (MAO,Hatred) at their performance, although having many experiences from tournament winnings at the past years. That's a bit about all the stuff out here
2010-09-07 18:23
3 replies
After many years of activity, the cs survives only in countries that have a great community supporting the game, sad, but is reality = / Good luck in Greece!
2010-09-07 18:48
everything is about money my friend, if there were some, you would see a lot of good greece players on top.
2010-09-07 19:23
1 reply
That's not how it all started though. There's always money where there are lots of players and competition and not the other way around.
2010-09-08 00:33
group E stacked
2010-09-07 18:24
hf fx & na'vi =)
2010-09-07 18:30
- Azerbaijan!+ Kazakhstan!
2010-09-07 18:30
MYM roster?
2010-09-07 18:30
1 reply
hooch, edik, xoma, xek, romjke?
2010-09-07 18:49
#654
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Serbia umobolnik
Go go go Tribal.BadrHari
2010-09-07 18:32
1 reply
Tribal.BadrHari RULES!
2010-09-08 20:08
Gogo PlayMore and Lions
2010-09-07 18:37
really stupid to have the french and american teams in the same group as Lions... The 3 of them should go through, it's ridiculous to think that teams from groups B, F & H (except WMF/mTw/Na'Vi) will pass and ex-BURNING! will probably not
2010-09-07 18:39
woww go top3 fg!
2010-09-07 18:41
Groups looks weird without fnatic, EG, ex.Burning and other good teams. :D imo. Final mTw : fx with 2;1 for fx
2010-09-07 18:46
good luck SK-Gaming
2010-09-07 18:47
omg Dosia vs fg :D
2010-09-07 18:49
gl FG, and will need a lot!
2010-09-07 18:50
huge chance for Playmore from Serbia! Gl :)
2010-09-07 18:56
I think it's better for F.azer.Z , they can win Katana this year... I hope, bcs their show good game this year, than last on pracc !
2010-09-07 18:57
bad for FX & a+e
2010-09-07 18:57
wCrea + B4G Na'Vi + XcN ForZe + FG SK + MYM EG + Lions mTw + F.azer.Z Tyloo + FX WMF + A51
2010-09-07 18:59
1 reply
fazerz? no way!
2010-09-08 08:50
sk favorite =] !
2010-09-07 19:00
Look out for wCrea, Na'Vi, FG, SK, Lions, mTw, FX, TyLoo, WMF (maybe) and also maybe the french team. Personally i think wCrea, SK, Lions, FX, TyLoo will be top5 in no particular order.
2010-09-07 19:05
3 replies
I smell EG coming out at least top 3 especially coming off their big win against fnatic. Lurppis is seriously on of the top 5 strat callers in the world probably.
2010-09-07 19:10
2 replies
nah don't get your hopes up to much. :DDD They have been way to unstable before this 1st placing @ MSI BEAT IT. Only question is if they can maintain that form from now on. Im sceptical. (Because of how random they have been before). Also the amount of topteams are insane for this WCG.
2010-09-07 19:15
lurrpis isnt going to play... so its very doubting how EG will perform without him.
2010-09-08 15:53
I believe the FG can surprise and get placed between top 4. But I confess it would a magnificent surprise.
2010-09-07 19:02
f.azer. what country is that ?
2010-09-07 19:11
ENTiTY.aswd : kalaN , kIRIL1G , NIGHTMARE , CI@ , nENO neWave.PlayMore : k1ng0r , hybaa , g0g1 , Zeus , confy <3 Macedonia <3 Serbia
2010-09-07 19:13
1 reply
confy is retired, vlada is playing instead. And Vladimir is instead of Zeus i think...:/
2010-09-27 11:06
I think FX win...
2010-09-07 19:21
1. Na`Vi
2010-09-07 19:23
neWave if gets out of goes directly to FG and 4ze lol, hf:)
2010-09-07 19:26
1.FX 2.MTW 3.NAVI
2010-09-07 19:27
2 replies
you just forgot TyLoo, SK, wCrea, Lions and maybe FG. and btw i think wCrea will place better than mTw.
2010-09-07 19:33
1 reply
no i didn't
2010-09-07 19:36
Na`Vi top 1 :)
2010-09-07 19:27
Good Luck Na'Vi
2010-09-07 19:29
GO ENTiTY you can do this, beat B4G and earthquake ... i hope you can beat and wCrea but you will need more lucky for do that .. :)
2010-09-07 19:36
ammm nice :))))))))) but where is fnatic ?!!
2010-09-07 19:38
2 replies
1383rd
2010-09-07 19:51
they boycotted this WCG.
2010-09-07 19:42
not a hard group for FG...
2010-09-07 19:40
ENTiTY will be the last team in the group.
2010-09-07 19:41
1 reply
You should focus on eq , not ENTiTY ;)
2010-09-07 19:48
group E is only cool one. Rest is too easy.
2010-09-07 19:49
#686 Azerbaijan
2010-09-07 19:51
2 replies
If you use the 'Reply' button the user will/would know you replied to him/her ;)
2010-09-07 21:23
1 reply
You are unreal dude :))) Where do you pull out the energy for this :DDD
2010-09-08 20:10
Group E strong :/ GL SK !
2010-09-07 19:54
2 replies
strong or hard ??
2010-09-07 19:57
1 reply
it's same :S
2010-09-08 16:05
gogogo entity <3 :p
2010-09-07 19:56
wmf easy rofl gl fg nd navi.
2010-09-07 19:57
Not enough teams
2010-09-07 20:01
TyLoo will do really good imo. FX aswell. I think SK might be on form aswell for this WCG. Lions could also surprise. wCrea is also going to do good imo. Na'Vi and mTw will fail. WMF will draw alot but hopefully not. and my personal favourites are TyLoo, SK and Lions.
2010-09-07 20:04
final FX vs mTw
2010-09-07 20:11
SO MANY GOOD TEAM WITHOUT INVITE :( k1ck ARENA CNB fnatic POV.wp tylooRAW Onile-Kingdom mouz k23 PG :((((
2010-09-07 20:15
1 reply
that is why I like ESWC more ..
2010-09-07 22:42
final SK vs Na'Vi ESWC2010 again!!!
2010-09-07 20:16
gl Firegamers / wCrea :)
2010-09-07 20:21
group E pretty stacked...France could cause an upset but EG/Lions should take it. sorry brits
2010-09-07 20:28
gl SK FX Lions ;D
2010-09-07 20:31
NA'VI WIN WCG 2010 100% infa
2010-09-07 20:33
go fg!!
2010-09-07 20:35
#766
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Brazil brutAo
There will be great games over the tournament.. the favorites are Natus Vincere, Frag eXecutors and mTw, but it's always good to have new names on the scenario! Let's see the performance of brazilian team -firegamers- and hope they can reach a good position! My predictions for the group phase: Group A 1st - wCrea 2nd - bet4gamers Group B 1st - Natus Vincere 2nd - EXECUTIONERS Group C 1st - Firegamers 2nd - forZe Group D 1st - SK Gaming 2nd - Meet Your Makers Group E 1st - France (aAa in my opinion) 2nd - Lions Group F 1st - mTw 2nd - F.azer.Z Group G 1st - Frag eXecutors 2nd - TyLoo Group H 1st - WeMade FOX 2nd - neWave.PlayMore
2010-09-07 20:52
1 reply
aAa folded, F.azer.Z are bad imo, doubt they can go trough, but one thing is sure, you got group H placings right!!! :)
2010-09-07 21:06
Is this the final list of teams that will attend from the qualifiers that have already been held? (naturally there will be additional qualifiers still as the news states) What I mean is that is it really official that for example Power Gaming won't attend WCG? Seems a bit strange as natu said in an interview at SEC that it is still unsure if they will attend WCG, and now if this really is the official list, the attendance of PG was probably already known back then.
2010-09-07 20:58
Go Na'Vi, gL FG!!
2010-09-07 21:05
since fnatic is not participating.. i'll be cheerin for the LIONS !!
2010-09-07 21:35
Highlight matches so far, wCrea vs b4g (I think wCrea > b4g but it is merely to see how the new b4g line-up performs against a decent team) forze vs FireGamers (Dosia vs Fnx!!) SK vs MYM (SK > MYM but I still think it has potential to be an interesting match) Frag eXecutors vs Tyloo (hope Tyloo shows their play off their homeground; and FX perform as they usually do at ESWC) Group E is quite pending due to not knowing what teams from the US and France will attend. Depending on that it might be the group where most tough teams have been gathered togehter.
2010-09-07 21:35
and fnatic? :( Go navi! xD
2010-09-07 21:37
1 reply
fnatic will not attend as they boycott the WCG.
2010-09-07 21:42
i hope idx got their visa.. and my favorite teams in this tourny are : wcrea , navi and Lions + idx coz em a true patriotic man:P
2010-09-07 21:56
missing a lot of team of countries like : Estonia, Portugal, Germany, Belgium and also from Hungary too
2010-09-07 22:09
#790
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Romania C1pryaN
GL Eq ~ ~ ~
2010-09-07 22:09
Go Entity :))
2010-09-07 22:28
#796
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
i wanna see: FG x Na'Vi...Fallen x markeloff *-*
2010-09-07 22:51
1 reply
#797
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
and fnx x Edward (ofc navi guys > fg guys, but anyway..)
2010-09-07 22:52
I still don't understand :/ Why are there 2 teams from 1 country? o_o
2010-09-07 22:54
1 reply
Because besides the paid slot some countries have more slots but the teams have to pay the expenses. Thus, if the money is available, certain teams, (Lions, mTw (I presume their 2nd spot is a non-paid one)) are able to attend too.
2010-09-07 23:22
GL Eq ~ Go SeDaN @ Viza :)))
2010-09-07 23:12
Go ENTiTY <3 GL m8s
2010-09-07 23:26
no fnatic :( no f0rest :( FU WCG.
2010-09-07 23:28
1 reply
=/
2010-09-07 23:57
Yeeeee nice i cant wait =D
2010-09-08 00:04
Good Luck FireGamers ! Edit : and gl mTw !
2010-09-08 00:12
SK vs. FX in final pls :D
2010-09-08 00:24
GO GO GO SK!!
2010-09-08 00:34
Go ENTiTY !! they are new from Macedonia on wcg 4 years was simpleX !!! GOOO
2010-09-08 00:36
#814
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United States BGS
Man one of the weaker WCG team lists in their excellent e-Sports run. still should be one hell of a tournament :D
2010-09-08 00:37
gl FIREGAMERS!
2010-09-08 00:42
GO SK Gaming :D ! and LIONS :)
2010-09-08 00:47
no fnatic no event easy for navi
2010-09-08 00:57
For all you flaming about the slots, or the bad teams or the drawings or anything. The concept of WCG is, like the olympic games, to have a representative of country for each game (discipline) in a grand final and that's it! Nothing more and nothing less! If a sponsor in Bangladesh has the money to send the best 5 CS players, who apparently have played CS solely on LAN, then so be it and it's great and that's what it's all about! WCG hosts the grand finals and the license holders do the qualifiers (with the WCG brand) and pay the trips to Los Angeles. Including everything it costs around 12000$ to send a five players team. Taking that fact into consideration WCG GF was aware that not so many "poor" countries were going to be able to fund, they opened second and third slots for the more wealthier countries. And although the groups might be "redicilous" with weak teams, you all have to agree that in the last Grand Finals the Top16 Elimination round has always been a blast with top teams and close matches not too different from those thousends "invite-only" 8 teams tournaments of ESL or Chinese/Korean organizations. But even then if you are not satisfied with whatsover you have to realize CS is one of 13 official games. It's as if you are complaining, that the whole olympic games 2012 in London are going to be crap because e.g. Michael Phelps is not participating in the swimming competition.
2010-09-08 01:03
2 replies
+1
2010-09-08 04:14
Very very well said. Good job.
2010-09-08 10:55
Natus Vincere WCG 2010.
2010-09-08 01:14
E group IS DEATH
2010-09-08 01:30
Frag eXecutors will take this wcg more one time :D
2010-09-08 01:44
Too little country, so sad with Samsung.
2010-09-08 02:09
never saw so much bad teams in one event poor wcg
2010-09-08 02:13
Hope WemadeFOX will win this time. gl
2010-09-08 03:05
Group E is pretty unfair!! Shit!! India & pakistan in different groups!! SHould have been like last year :D!!
2010-09-08 03:17
and pak win the last match against india em i right ? :$
2010-09-08 03:21
#835
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Algeria SHeTaN
Gameholics lineup?
2010-09-08 05:25
I sure Pakistan will win :)
2010-09-08 06:45
GL india n pakistan hope to see u in finals :P lol
2010-09-08 07:31
6 replies
ya final of 2010 WCG i-Dx vs Ate gaming lol
2010-09-08 08:24
Hahahah.. Hope So :D
2010-09-08 10:58
4 replies
I-DX has a chance of advancing to play-offs as FireGamer is not so consistent team. On paper i-dx can beat both FG and forze. I watched some demos of their players. Nice skills they have. More insight my pak bros can provide. For ATE it is next to impossible given the group it has. Edit : FG is amazing with the talent they have and if any 2 players will be on fire then it wil be no chance for i-dx but lately they have a habit of loosing matches to mibr, cnb, some unknon Brazil team.
2010-09-08 11:34
3 replies
Are you sure, your Senses are functioning..CORRECTLY. you are talking abot those teams, which are not Even on the CS MAP
2010-09-08 12:50
No offense to idx, but FG is anything but inconsistent, i beat they can defeat teams lyk idx-A+e anyday! Losing to mibr,cnb, UNKNOWN BRAZIL teams is NOT anything lyk losing to A+E/IDX
2010-09-08 13:58
1 reply
Agreed With Both #864 and #872! Last Year FG beat Fnatic In WCG Grand Finals! With This Level IDX Doesn't Stand a Chance To Compete! Their Aims And Senses Both Are Way To Good As Compared To IDX Players :-( But Still GL from Me To Both IDX And ATE! :-)
2010-09-09 02:12
** go playmore
2010-09-08 11:10
Then I Think Fx will be go to the playoffs :))
2010-09-08 11:13
Goooooo GOOOOOO GOoOoOoO ENTITY
2010-09-08 12:12
top1 fx/sk/navi/mtw top2 fx/sk/navi/mtw top3 fx/sk/navi/mtw top4 fx/sk/navi/mtw
2010-09-08 13:43
trace > WCG 2010
2010-09-08 13:51
LIONS or SK \m/
2010-09-08 13:59
KHRYSTAL ftw~
2010-09-08 14:00
forze line up
2010-09-08 14:04
We australians play $8,000 to fly over to your stupid fucking cs tournaments and once again you put us with seed #1 and seed #2 you fucking faggots
2010-09-08 14:09
1 reply
Hahahahahahaha
2010-09-08 14:46
@ YurikDenis <-- hahah funny boy H@H@H@H@H@H@H@H@
2010-09-08 14:58
2 replies
If you use the 'Reply' button the user will/would know you replied to him/her ;)
2010-09-08 21:00
1 reply
Hahahahahha :D
2010-09-09 02:15
groupe E is hot :) BURNING & EG will advance
2010-09-08 15:19
I hope Fx win this tournament third time ; )
2010-09-08 15:47
Gl Playmore!
2010-09-08 15:51
group E is sick :D
2010-09-08 15:54
youtube.com/watch?v=ybU88r4arcI&feature=.. look neWaVe.PlayMore vs Entity ..kgr dgl ;)
2010-09-08 15:55
There isn't any doubt... ForZe and FG > -i-DX .... :/ and MYM and SK > ATE ..... :/ but the sad thing is..... we waited for an year for 2 matches only?... :/
2010-09-08 16:20
ATE gonna beat SK :)
2010-09-08 19:11
3 replies
If it happends, i'll cut my hair and drop my computer through the window . OK?XD
2010-09-08 19:27
2 replies
LOL :D
2010-09-09 02:13
#954
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Kosovo goldborn_
hahahahahahahaa ..comment of the day
2010-09-12 14:57
Frag eXecutors POWER !!!
2010-09-08 19:13
1 reply
YO! <3 NEO :-)
2010-09-09 02:13
#893
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Finland coswell
How come Immunity ALLLWAAAYS has the worst possible draw possible... Lions, PROBABLY EG and Frances team... French teams are always dangerous, they are always a threat. Lions have performed well lately and EG prooved themselves in China. BAD LUCK DOWN UNDER.
2010-09-08 19:22
ye you may cross "Greece" out already, but don't give the slot to fnatic! We're giving it to faroe islands.
2010-09-08 22:27
gl entity
2010-09-08 23:18
no german team? omfg,sad! gl fg.
2010-09-09 02:41
gl EG
2010-09-09 03:03
GL -i-DX ..
2010-09-09 03:41
easy matches for idX-
2010-09-09 10:14
GoGo neWave.PlayMore :))
2010-09-09 12:03
eg in group e or not?plzz reply...
2010-09-09 20:16
well if fx will be 1st in group then they will play vs mym , fg and lions SO EZ BOYZ TOP3 4 SURE
2010-09-09 22:18
GO PLAYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2010-09-09 23:38
GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO PLAYMORE
2010-09-10 00:17
GL for Pakistan pray For Sponser. lol
2010-09-10 01:36
Where's Finland?
2010-09-10 02:04
FIREGAMES
2010-09-10 19:52
nie group for sk gl SK. <3
2010-09-10 20:40
yesss wcreaa will be the best
2010-09-10 21:38
Group of Death = E Probably Lions and American Team will pass
2010-09-11 01:48
eg
2010-09-11 02:40
F, group of death!
2010-09-12 11:50
1st place : mTw 2nd place : EXECUTIONERS ( I hope :D ) 3rd place : Frag eXecutor
2010-09-12 14:50
1 reply
EXECUTIONERS? keep dreaming :D
2010-09-13 14:27
1st EG
2010-09-13 13:17
HOPE Lions, but i'm pretty sure that SK or mTw will take this. I don't believe in FX :p
2010-09-13 14:31
GO GO GO FireGamers
2010-09-13 14:44
GO ! Wemade fox, Lions and Firegame i think can win this
2010-09-13 15:14
SK Gaming Na'Vi mym ( i hope)
2010-09-13 16:40
where is fnatic gyes?
2010-09-13 21:36
1 reply
they boycot wcg...
2010-09-27 11:02
SK NaVi FX!
2010-09-13 21:37
So Sad .. Paki .. Team Not GoinG For WCG ..
2010-09-15 15:19
PlayMore!!!!!
2010-09-17 21:04
I hope final NaVi vs FX :] and FX win i hope. this is my opinion :) 3 place mtw vs sk mtw win !
2010-09-17 21:11
I DUN GVE A FUCK TO WCG cz fNATIC IS NT PLAYING
2010-09-26 23:06
so whos going?? :D ima be there
2010-09-27 06:22
final will be between mTw and SK !
2010-09-27 10:59
group E srsly?
2010-09-27 11:08
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