Groups for EPS Winter season drawn

The groups for the German ESL Pro Series Winter season have been drawn, the season will begin in mid-August.

At 20:00 the groups for the German EPS Winter season were drawn live on ESL TV. The Winter season will just like the Summer season consist of four groups with four teams, top two will be advancing to the playoffs.

The groups for the 2011 German EPS Winter season are as follows:

Group A Group B Group C Group D
Germany Alternate Germany mousesports
Germany Hardware4u
Sweden ESC Gaming
Germany myRevenge.de
Germany BOTPARTY
Germany SFTO
Germany TBH
Germany Team X (ex-mTw.de)
Germany dotpiXels
Germany AIM41
Germany YDK.me
Germany Tera-Gaming
Germany gamed!de
Germany plan-B.de
Germany n!faculty

This is the second season in a row with the new format, unlike previous seasons, where all teams were placed in one group. The season will begin mid-August and teams will have until July 31 to finalize their rosters and submit them on the ESL website.

The Winter season promises for great action, with the roster changes in the German teams; mousesports and Alternate, but certainly also the addition of GameGune runners-up, the Swedish/Norwegian team of ESC Gaming.

You will be able to follow the German ESL Pro Series Winter season up and close right here on HLTV.org.

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Gl esc!
2011-07-26 00:11
19 replies
A - Alternative B - mouze baby C h4u, SFTO? D ESC
2011-07-26 01:54
4 replies
D: ESC, TBH
2011-07-26 02:28
1 reply
indeed, how could you not have TBH easily second :P in fact I would have found it more fair for them if they had topseed with mouz ESC and alterate
2011-07-26 16:43
ESC win ofc!!!
2011-07-26 15:15
1 reply
spammer post D: ESC, TBH = 2. TBH ;O really spamer, really nob.
2011-07-26 15:26
MoUsEsPoRtS > Sweden
2011-07-26 10:29
11 replies
Sweden...?
2011-07-26 14:29
7 replies
One Swedish team.. use your brains, jeez.
2011-07-26 16:54
6 replies
Haha? I think you should use ur brain.
2011-07-29 19:12
5 replies
Me? U are one who don't understand. fakin' kiddo :)
2011-07-30 02:36
4 replies
Fakin kiddo? Nice one. "One swedish team.." Including 2 norweigans, ok.
2011-07-30 03:22
3 replies
yea yea, go cry about it. he mentioned your country.
2011-07-30 10:58
2 replies
Haha yeah im crying, your arguments amuse me.
2011-07-30 11:52
1 reply
ok.
2011-07-30 16:33
Sweden? wtf
2011-07-26 14:59
1 reply
<3 Sweden :DDDDD
2011-07-26 15:15
hmm ok. 16 14 vs fnaic :D win mouz baby
2011-07-26 21:58
Dreamteam is included at this tournament?
2011-07-26 14:48
1 reply
Why did you reply to him ? And yes it is.
2011-07-27 16:13
#2
FalleN | 
Portugal proak
Group D O.O
2011-07-26 00:12
3 replies
what ? n!faculty,YDK.me and TBH are not the same of 2008/2009, so i dont think its a hard group
2011-07-26 01:22
1 reply
TBH have blizzard etc right? I think they are very tough, then again, ESC is my favourite to win this, even over mouz
2011-07-26 16:43
hardcore :3
2011-07-26 01:43
gut luck all
2011-07-26 00:12
esc win
2011-07-26 00:12
GL mouz and ESC
2011-07-26 00:12
gl alternate ;)
2011-07-26 00:13
#7
Aerial | 
Denmark Esgar
it's strange how there can be so many sponsored teams in Germany, such a well established league, and yet, they're not really having a great international team. Gonna be funny to see what ESC-Gamings addition to the league is gonna do.
2011-07-26 00:15
36 replies
have to agree with you, hope we can see back the german scene in intl events! gl all teams
2011-07-26 00:28
The thing with german scene is that it's devided imo. I mean the best players are not in one particular team or two like it used to be when Alternate Attax and mouz were on top but in many teams.
2011-07-26 00:31
34 replies
i just think that it ought to be more competitive with so many sponsored teams, but we never really see other teams than mouse, and possibly a little of attax, these days. I find it sad, when there's so many sponsors and teams, that ought to make the effort to beat mouz, attax and play on international top level.
2011-07-26 00:37
3 replies
imo it's more about lack of motivation for players to play on international level. In GER is EPS so well estabilished, with high prizes etc. that noone has motivation for higher competition. just opinion
2011-07-26 00:59
2 replies
I fully agree with you, it's the truth unfortunately.
2011-07-26 01:27
yeah Counter-Strike is just a paid side job for the players :/
2011-07-26 08:22
they need the best igl (gob b) the best riffler (roman) the best AWP(approx) the best all around player (tixo) and the best danish player (karrigan)
2011-07-26 01:26
29 replies
Are you sure that karrigan is the best danish player?
2011-07-26 03:39
3 replies
He really is up there. Only challenge I see is trace and zonic.
2011-07-26 13:21
2 replies
Could be, but zonic and trace are so over karrigan! (imo)
2011-07-26 14:10
friis is also a dick with AWP.
2011-07-27 16:16
That is a good lineup, but they aren't good enough i think. And besides, karrigan should be in an all-danish lineup. You see many teams go for the all-star solution within every country. You got FX, Na`Vi, eSahara, SK(atleast in my opinion). They need to do this in denmark too. Imagine; friis(awp), trace, zonic, karrigan and arcadion(igl). They would absolutley destroy everything! For germany i would choose; roman, Roman.R(igl), tixo, kapio and approx(awp)/blizzard(dno if he still plays).
2011-07-26 13:26
24 replies
Laughed really.. Roman R. and Blizzard are way too old, they have other aims today and so has Tixo/Kapio because they are both father and have less time to play. And a German top team without gob b?! Not gonna happen my friend.
2011-07-26 14:07
7 replies
+1 w/o mastermind | gob b no competition :)
2011-07-26 14:12
roman, kARRIGAN, gob b, Approx and ( tixo or zonix :)?)
2011-07-26 14:19
1 reply
-Approx+Ninja
2011-07-26 14:29
Can't really say that I know everything there is to know about the german scene, but my point was that nations are gathering the best players from the country and making superlineups. Too get back into it germany have to do the same. And the only reason I left out Gob b is that he isen't from germany. And for your information is it not so much longer than a year ago that blizzard had the best stat in mousesports.
2011-07-26 15:37
2 replies
LOL. Just because gob b isn't "blood German" he needs to play with people from Turkey even though he lives in Germany? So pita also shouldn't play in fnatic right? Seriously.. haha.
2011-07-26 16:57
1 reply
Man, you don't really get my point... Yes of course Gob b should play in an all-star lineup from germany. My point, how silly it seemed, is that is they were to make an all-german-all-star-lineup(!) then gob b would not be able to play in that lineup. Mouse lose one of the best events in the year because of gob b's nationality. It is a stupid rule, but the idea of superlineups from strong countries are cool imo. I hope you see my point now
2011-07-26 23:26
How to earn this play :). Na'Vi earns more than on Ukraine is playing:)
2011-07-26 22:02
I see your point, but I think all the best players shouldn't play for the best team like, in Sweeden, 5 the best in sk, same in Poland, and Ukraine etc. If kARRIGAN and friis join mTw ( mTw would be better than sk imo) But that would kill Mouz and TCM. Tcm wouldn't be abel to to any damage at all what so ever, and Mouz would still destroy in GER but would be very weak in international, yes I know they haven't been on top in the past 2 years ( International), but they have been on there way up, witch we saw last tour, witch they lost to ESWC who are very good imo and who lost to sk who are the best team in the world atm.
2011-07-26 14:17
5 replies
-kaRRIGAN +kapio -minet +friis :D::D:D:D::D:D
2011-07-26 15:41
2 replies
And kARRIGAN to TCM XD?
2011-07-26 15:49
1 reply
YEAH! :p
2011-07-26 21:52
I know it would destroy these two teams, but mTw would probably be the best team with SK, Na`Vi and FX. But i also love the teams that mix players from different countries. ESC are my favourite team, norwegian patriotisem i guess. And the norwegian players would be nowhere if they can't join swedish teams.
2011-07-26 15:43
1 reply
True that. I think it's very cool with ESC on top with mTw, FX, SK and Na'Vi. There we got 5 teams. Now ( after that) I think it would be better to get some strenght to fnatic, Lions, EG etc, instead making the best teams better.
2011-07-26 15:48
Nobody can change ave as an in-game leader
2011-07-26 15:30
9 replies
arcadion is in-game leader in mTw atm
2011-07-26 15:38
8 replies
friis, kARRIGAN, Trace, Zonic and AccardioN > GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, Delpan, Face and Robban =)
2011-07-26 15:51
7 replies
haha GeT_RighT > kARRIGAN f0rest > all up player Delpan > all up player Trace > fejsoon rooban > tim 4 : 1 thanix
2011-07-26 21:57
6 replies
friis is the most consistent player with awp now-a-days. he plays in TCM, a team that never even gets very fare in tournaments, but friis still always puts up _HUGE_ numbers off frags with the green gun. i would say; friis > delpan trace = GeT_RiGhT kARRIGAN < f0rest zonic > face ArcadioN < RobbaN
2011-07-26 23:30
5 replies
Haha! friis > delpan = kid and ? Trace = GeT_RiGhT = now GTR no form so okay ;) kARRIGAN < f0rest = 100% zonic > face = no ;)
2011-07-26 23:42
4 replies
friis got better K/D-ratio,wich is pretty good thinking about his team. Delpan got 0,1 better overall, so they are pretty thight. Trace is the best player in Denmark, and have been showing some incredible moments since he joined mTw. He also plays awp, and is not fare behind GeT_RiGhT's stats. They are both top players. Good we can agree one thing atleast ;) zonic is better than face, eod!
2011-07-27 14:47
3 replies
Friis, Delpan, Markeloff, and Trace are even with awp ( even trace is better with colt than awp ) The thing is Friis dosent have as good player around him as GeT_RiGhT dose, Friis needs to think about his teamm8s and watch out for the whole team, while GeT_RiGhT can trust f0rest that he'll pick the fucker out in B etc, so he ( GeT_RiGhT) can do what ever fits him. And Zonic is a very experienced cs player, one of the few players who has been on top 7 every year and won a LOT og tour and plays well everytime, he can play with awp, colt and also be IGL. kARRIGAN is owning EPS as a very few has done before, he's a map frager with awp, and with colt, he prove last event that he's not the problem, with Mouz not doing so well l8ly. And AccardioN has done a very well job, mTw always finish top 3 everytime and they've beaten Sk, Na'Vi and you name it since he came to mTw, no doubts on his judgements. Trace is the biggest talent in cs l8ly. He can easly take a team down Awp or colt. He's only 19-20 and has many years left. He has been dominating all over the places since he joined mTw. He's always on top on the score board what so ever, and very often named player of DH or ESWC etc etc etc. He's on top with Gtr, Neo , Markeloff and Edward.
2011-07-27 19:30
2 replies
we see eye to eye one many things!
2011-07-27 21:39
1 reply
True, just my opinion :)
2011-07-28 00:02
nice
2011-07-26 00:16
GL Mouz & ESC =)
2011-07-26 00:16
why the hell they don't put some of the team of the ESC group with mouz? :S
2011-07-26 00:18
esc win
2011-07-26 00:18
ESC mouz Alternate!
2011-07-26 00:18
esc'll take this.
2011-07-26 00:19
Cheerin for ESC.
2011-07-26 00:19
Need lineups
2011-07-26 00:20
esc winner.
2011-07-26 00:20
Group D is hard.
2011-07-26 00:21
gl ESC and mousesports :D
2011-07-26 00:22
Group A group of death! :)
2011-07-26 00:22
3 replies
#24
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Serbia Lzrk
Group D is the group of death! :)
2011-07-26 00:26
2 replies
Nah, for me it's A :)
2011-07-26 00:28
what ? n!faculty,YDK.me and TBH are not the same of 2008/2009, so i dont think its a hard group
2011-07-26 01:23
#20
 | 
Algeria SHeTaN
GL mouz
2011-07-26 00:24
ESC easy...
2011-07-26 00:25
ESC&mouse
2011-07-26 00:25
#23
 | 
Chile GanbETA
GL Mouz !!
2011-07-26 00:25
Go ESC =D
2011-07-26 00:26
esc
2011-07-26 00:31
gogogogogogo mouz <3
2011-07-26 00:32
esc ofc
2011-07-26 00:33
gl all, gl esc :)
2011-07-26 00:34
more fritz teams please .... like online they wont play with EAC, like WTF is this shit ?!!? you win 3-4 rounds easy, then they start shooting y`all thought the wall. WW2 is over, no need to take drugs and use 3rd party programs.
2011-07-26 00:36
1 reply
? :D
2011-07-26 01:29
esc gaming wins ?
2011-07-26 00:40
esc easy
2011-07-26 00:41
Will be dreamteam like it was @Summer season?
2011-07-26 00:41
6 replies
Yes
2011-07-26 00:43
4 replies
beautiful Nix :)
2011-07-26 02:08
PLEASE SAY PIOS :DDD
2011-07-26 15:17
2 replies
PIOS
2011-07-26 15:39
1 reply
:)) ETO YA SKAZAL
2011-07-26 15:43
Oh Yeah! dreamteam <33 ;\D
2011-07-27 01:38
gl mouz and others teams
2011-07-26 00:43
ESC WIT EZZZZ
2011-07-26 00:45
#41
NEO | 
Morocco MADfn
go ESC ! :D
2011-07-26 00:45
esc !
2011-07-26 00:47
esc easy
2011-07-26 00:52
dreamteam will be made?
2011-07-26 01:00
1 reply
2011-07-26 08:28
After all, at least EPS will gain more viewers :) Cheering for ESC.
2011-07-26 01:01
esc, mouz, alt in that order
2011-07-26 01:06
GL mousesports !!!
2011-07-26 01:10
So, there's no ESC german squad now?
2011-07-26 01:21
1 reply
no.
2011-07-26 01:28
Gl mouz :)
2011-07-26 01:23
ESC all the way!
2011-07-26 01:24
go ESC !
2011-07-26 01:28
gl all
2011-07-26 01:33
easy for ESC but gl mouz :D
2011-07-26 01:42
MOUZ :D ESC karrigan is mousesports :D
2011-07-26 01:43
DreamTeam for this event ?
2011-07-26 01:43
2 replies
2011-07-26 02:08
1 reply
thx Puotech
2011-07-26 02:12
Mouz+gobb=european topteam GO DREAMTEAM! NIXON PYOS :D sry :)
2011-07-26 01:47
this will be a strong punishment to all the german "Pro"players ... they will get raped by ESC :/
2011-07-26 01:49
when sweden's not enough;) gl grabbar!
2011-07-26 01:51
A - Alternative B - mouze baby C h4u, SFTO? D ESC
2011-07-26 01:54
1 reply
H4Y will take group C for sure. turkizh and woodi clear up :)
2011-07-26 10:16
this tournament is for ESC
2011-07-26 02:08
Would be nice tournament when ESC is there ..
2011-07-26 02:16
ESC will take this . gl mouz
2011-07-26 02:17
GO ESC AND mousesport..GL
2011-07-26 02:26
Aww man. I really wanted to see the "league" return. Let everyone play each other. Ah well, should be fun anyway. gl hf all. :)
2011-07-26 02:31
shit son... group d tough
2011-07-26 02:34
Go Go ESC !!
2011-07-26 02:40
GL N!
2011-07-26 02:49
GO ESC <3
2011-07-26 03:15
hope see good matches, GO ESC
2011-07-26 03:18
go esc :) <3 moddii
2011-07-26 03:33
#86
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India mainz
So that mean esc have to get 2-3 players to live in germany all eps season?
2011-07-26 04:01
2 replies
hltv.org/news/7196-esc-gaming-to-play-ep.. moddii, barbarr and tacky will live in Germany during the season.
2011-07-26 04:59
1 reply
#177
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India mainz
okay tnx :)
2011-07-26 15:54
esc ftw
2011-07-26 04:18
ESC ..
2011-07-26 04:50
gl ESC ! group A : alternate group B : mouz group C : Hardware4u group D : ESC grand final ESC vs mouz ;)
2011-07-26 05:24
go BOTPARTY!
2011-07-26 05:34
ESC will be winners of the tournament :)
2011-07-26 06:41
ESC win ofc
2011-07-26 07:03
GL myRevenge :)
2011-07-26 07:09
esc will probably win. unless mouz and esc meet before finals, we all know it will be mouz vs esc finals
2011-07-26 07:40
Online?
2011-07-26 07:44
pronax > germany
2011-07-26 07:55
TBH old mauz ? line up plz
2011-07-26 08:07
I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully, the other teams put more effort into it now.
2011-07-26 08:52
ESC
2011-07-26 10:06
2011-07-26 10:12
lineups?
2011-07-26 10:11
7 replies
mousesports: gob b - ninja - karrigan - roman - zonixx - [tixo] ESC Gaming: BARBARR - moddii - kalle - tacky - pronax - Jny Team Hardware4u:?(turkizh - woodi - eddy +2) Team ALTERNATE: Kapio - crisby - hool - Roman R - approx myRevenge: mat - debsN68 - avenue hakkenp - jaenson TBH:? SFTO: V3n0m - belanglos - HYPER - tankJr - wipseN - b0Fr0sTm4NN YDK.ME: ? Botparty: ? AIM41: pred - natu - craked - RSK68 - denyo - y4sin - Relay dotpiXels:? gamed!de: gothen - atrox - december - sunnilo - jaenson - jn n!faculty: ?(maybe chrizzo - gerdi - ODIE and +2) plan-B: h4Xx0r - kana - eeki - gerry - cherry -[overkill] Tera-Gaming: ?(maybe old NeverPlay) Bouncer4You: ?(maybe old mtw) correct me if i'm wrong :) i will edit this then
2011-07-26 10:36
6 replies
2011-07-26 10:57
2 replies
Zitat von gErry: plan-B LU ist ->> h4Xx0r-kana-eeki-gerry-cherry
2011-07-26 10:53
esl down as always -.-
2011-07-26 11:01
AIM41: pred - natu - craked - RSK68 - denyo - y4sin - Relay it's the same natu from Finland ?
2011-07-26 10:57
1 reply
nope.
2011-07-26 10:59
sry for double post, but i can't edit :/ TBH: kzy - ceLL - Andrue - divine - cruzN - [doso] - [pwl JJ] Team Hardware4you: eddy - gerdi - turkizh - woodi - cLy
2011-07-27 08:14
GL ESC!
2011-07-26 10:12
mouz and esc
2011-07-26 10:18
ESC win final with no problems, unreasonable would bee to watch this tournament.
2011-07-26 10:20
Gl esc and hardware4u
2011-07-26 10:21
ESC vs mouz in final
2011-07-26 10:26
D group of death
2011-07-26 10:36
wondering what lineup TBH will represent, now that zonixx and Roman R. left for mouz & alternate
2011-07-26 10:44
now mouz have some concurent(ESC)
2011-07-26 10:56
Group A Group of Death
2011-07-26 10:59
Gl all. :)
2011-07-26 11:03
easy one for ESC.
2011-07-26 11:05
GL ESC!
2011-07-26 11:11
gl mousesports
2011-07-26 11:19
ESC GAMING=)
2011-07-26 11:34
final mousesport vs ESC ESC 2-1
2011-07-26 11:39
FINAL : mousesports vs ESC Gaming :]
2011-07-26 11:40
Final ESC mouz 2-0 ofc.. lol ESC is just extremely good actually.. no chance for all the others.. :D
2011-07-26 11:43
gl mouz
2011-07-26 11:43
Finally, there is a team with potential to dethrone mouz. This season is gonna be very interesting indeed !!
2011-07-26 11:55
ESC :)
2011-07-26 12:02
ESC - mousesports ESC
2011-07-26 12:19
#1 - mouz #2 - ESC #3 - Alternate
2011-07-26 12:31
1 reply
# 1 - ESC # 2 - mousz # 3 - Alternat # 4 - Hardware4u
2011-07-26 13:43
easy 4 esc :$
2011-07-26 12:40
Is loomit still playing anywhere?
2011-07-26 12:56
1 reply
Yes he's played for YDK.me
2011-07-26 13:48
Ydk will take this
2011-07-26 13:15
Group A and D are pretty hard compared to B and C...
2011-07-26 13:47
After this season, ESC is just as bad as each other EPS team :P
2011-07-26 13:55
GL HF all teams! Want to see a Mouz vs. ESC Final.
2011-07-26 14:04
ESC takes it :D
2011-07-26 14:40
it will b too nice , n wish ESC will take it : )
2011-07-26 15:12
1st ESC 2nd mouz 3rd Alternate
2011-07-26 15:18
ESC WITH KARIGAN ;]
2011-07-26 15:24
tacky's back :D
2011-07-26 15:25
1-ESC 2-mouz 3-alternate or ESC alternate mouz
2011-07-26 15:41
1 reply
yeah! +1
2011-07-26 15:43
easy for ESC gaming
2011-07-26 15:54
kalle and moddii vs Germany
2011-07-26 15:54
1 reply
you vs brain
2011-07-26 21:28
dont forget esc playing without karningan! :D go mauz
2011-07-26 16:59
GL ESC moddiiii :D
2011-07-26 18:06
I hope ESC will take this ;]] GL all teams
2011-07-26 18:57
GL mouz!!
2011-07-26 20:46
ESC gl
2011-07-26 21:43
no lineups have been announced for TBH, n!faculty and YDK yet? either way, with those teams' history, group D looks very, very strong :o
2011-07-27 12:35
For me all groups look strong. Would say C doesn't look like 3 others.
2011-07-27 12:42
mouz go :)
2011-07-27 18:33
group A could go either way.
2011-07-30 12:49
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