IEM6 WC group B preview

After previewing the group A of Intel Extreme Masters 6 World Championship, it's now time to shed some light on the group B of the event.

Featuring a total of twelve teams split up in two groups of six, the IEM6 World Championship features just about every top team in the world right now. Although certain teams dropped out, ESL was able to keep the tournament full with replacements.

In round robin each team plays each other once in a best-of-one format where both teams eliminate three maps from the seven map pool which consists of de_dust2, de_forge, de_inferno, de_mirage de_nuke, de_train and de_tuscan.

Sweden fnatic (cArn, Friis, Gux, MODDII, Xizt)

Patrik "cArn" Sättermon's team has been slowly improving ever since Michael "Friis" Jorgensen joined to replace long time fnatic member Harley "dsn" Örwall. Currently I would rank them 4-5th best in the world along with Moscow Five, who they had a long history of besting up until IEM6 GC Kiev where the Russians came out on top in the third place decider. Ever since the departure of Faruk "pita" Pita who was replaced by Andreas "MODDII" Fridh we have yet to see fnatic on LAN and their results are expected to improve since Kiev. So far their only matches with the new lineup are from TECHLABS Cup where they had a good showing, recording wins against Xapso and ESC in the group stage and WinFakt in quarter finals before a close 1-2 loss against Na`Vi ended their tournament

When you take each match up apart in group B, fnatic are favorites against every single team on paper. Moscow Five has the best chance at beating them and their match will likely determine the winner of the group. WinFakt has had a couple of close games against fnatic recently and Lions has a history of upsetting the better Swedish teams. eSAHARA seems like a big question mark right now as they have recorded that one flaky win against SK at SEC where it was too loud to hear any sounds, and have since then done nothing of any merit. It's hard to say how semXorah will do either as they have four new players from Mandic for this event, but I would expect fnatic to come out on top regardless.

Prediction: 1st in group B 


All eyes will be on MODDII in fnatic's games 

Russia Moscow Five (Dosia, ED1K, Fox, ROMJkE, xek)

Moscow Five is a favorite over every other team in this group but fnatic, and even against them the odds can't be much worse than 45-55 in the Swedes' favor. They've had the same roster for a long time and we've seen Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov's brother Sergey "Fox" Stolyarov improve considerably in that time frame to become even the team's best player at times. Alexander "xek" Zobkov has been very inconsistent and is probably the biggest difference maker in this team, as the others are more or less expect to play on their level but a jump in his level of play can make a big difference. Eduard "ED1K" Ivanov has also been playing under his usual level lately.

Comparing Moscow Five head to head to any of the other teams in the group besides fnatic, you have to assume they will at least advance, even if it's not in second place. As is the case with fnatic, semXorah and eSAHARA are expected to offer little resistance to the Russians, so it will all come down to the two matches against Lions and WinFakt. I don't believe M5 has faced Lions in an actual LAN tournament yet, and they've consistently beaten WinFakt ever since last summer. Regardless of placing second or third, Moscow Five should advance to bracket play where they should hope to face ESC rather than Na`Vi or SK.

Prediction: 2nd in group B 


How will 2011's best Desert Eagle team fare in Hannover? 

Sweden Lions (FYRR73, kHRYSTAL, niko, threat, zneel)

Lions have always been the "almost" team of big tournaments to me. They had a great performance at DreamHack Winter last year but apart from that it seems like they always almost make it, then lose at the last second against top teams. Most recently they attended IEM6 GC Kiev where they got demolished by Na`Vi, beaten by SK and they got a win against the weak DTS squad. They are a team that can for sure advance if they show up playing well, but it's another question whether or not they actually will. One of the reasons they seem to have problems here and there is the lack of firepower against the very best teams, and why I personally think they were better when Andreas "MODDII" Fridh was a stand-in for them in the IEM Kiev qualifiers earlier.

One player who needs to step up his game overall at big events is Jim "zneel" Andersson who everyone is familiar with as the guy who always uses a FAMAS with burst mode and one taps people with an AK. Highest rated player of DreamHack Winter, Emil "FYRR73" Karlsson seemed to be in good shape in Kiev as well, and it will be interesting to see if he can continue his good performances in Hannover. I think Lions is a slight underdog against both fnatic and Moscow Five, fairly even with WinFakt and and a favorite against both eSAHARA and semXorah. If the matches end up going that way, that would mean the match against the Finns would decide their fate at CeBIT. Since they face WinFakt last in the group stage, a possible loss by either team to one of the underdogs could shift things and make the final game a lot less interesting.

Prediction: 4th in group B 


Can DreamHack Winter's MVP help Lions escape the group stage? 

Finland WinFakt (allu, aslak, BASiC, H^N, lurppis)
Prediction by Marc "Nix0n" Winther Kristensen 

The Finnish team will travel to Hannover with a warmup event in their bag, having attended FireCore 3 this weekend. All practice is good practice and it could be a nice moral booster for the team, going into the World Championship group stage and I think they have a pretty solid chance of advancing from the group.

In Kiev they did not play particular good. They didn't advance from the group, but still won against mousesports. I think WinFakt will advance from this group if they manage to beat Lions. Against fnatic and Moscow Five I think they will fall, just like they did when playing them on LAN last time. The match against eSAHARA is a match I don't see them Finns losing, while I feel the match against semXorah could get tricky. With that said, I won't rule out the possibility of WinFakt upsetting either fnatic or Moscow Five, but overall see them go through to the quarter-finals.

Prediction: 3rd in group B 


Will H^N return to his pre-army form in time for IEM WC? 

France eSAHARA (atLaNtis, drizzer, HaRts, MAJ3R, nOta)

I don't think Electronic Sahara had great chances at making top four in the group even with their two star players Mickael "mSx" Cassisi and Christopher "SIXER" Xia, but now that they've been stripped of most of their star power I don't think it would be wrong to pretty much count the French out of competition for a playoff spot. They might still be able to upset semXorah or even get rounds on one of the other teams, but especially considering the fact I doubt they're very well prepared seeing as how late they announced their temporary line-up for the event, I doubt they're in good shape as a team.
Fabien "atLaNtis" Deguirad has made a couple of appearances in differenthighlight clips even here on HLTV.org and seems to have a reasonable amount of individual skill which should come in handy as a replacement for Xia. Cassisi has been a big disappointment ever since his comeback, and Kyle "nOta" Saadi has actually seemed decent in some of his recent tournaments and matches, so skillwise the drop might not be as big as people might consider. However, Xia and Cassisi were the play makers and main impact players of eSAHARA, and I think that is where this team will fall. The seven map rotation won't help them either, as they more than likely have had no practice on de_mirage or de_forge. I can't see this team going through, and I think they'll end up fighting for the 5th spot in group B with semXorah.

Prediction: 6th in group B


HaRts reunites with ESWC teammate nOta - will that be enough?

Brazil semXorah (bit, FalleN, felippe, fnx, nak)

The Brazilians changing four players in their roster totally turned the team upside down, as they have failed miserably in New York (granted, with stand-ins) and at DreamHack. The team that everyone thought was going to be a punching bag for everyone else in Hannover can now compete, and it will make many matches much more interesting. I'm not sure how much preparation these guys have had or how rusty they are from what I can only assume has been a break of at least a couple of months since their last international appearance at World Cyber Games and the Mandic sponsorship's expiration.

This team will clearly live and die with Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo's individual performances, and he will have to make some magic happen if Felippe "felippe" Martins hopes to see the playoffs this time. On paper you have to assume they are currently underdogs to everyone in this group except eSAHARA, who are probably on a somewhat similar level. It's worth remembering that no one knows what kind of form semXorah will be in, so they could either surprise everyone with some upset wins to mess up the group or completely crash out. I don't see them making too much noise although an upset win is possible, so they will probably fight it out with the Frenchies to avoid placing dead last at this year's IEM World Championship.

Prediction: 5th in group B 


FalleN gets a second chance at IEM WC 

Just like in the past two years, the number one team of each group will qualify directly to the semi finals while the second and third placing teams will play each other in the quarter finals. All of playoffs will be played in a best-of-three single elimination bracket.

Who do you think will make it out of this group? How do you think semXorah featuring Gabriel "Fallen" Toledo will do? Will the Swedes end up on top? Leave a comment with your prediction below.

lurppis will be right like always
2012-03-04 11:30
3 replies
imo Lions will be third or even second with a lil bit of luck edit: sory i didnt read that is prediction by Nixon. So Nixon is wrong:D
2012-03-04 13:26
so nixon isnt ?
2012-03-04 13:57
#179
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Vietnam sgk_12m
lurppis always predicts the result of the group according to teams' recent performances. It's pretty standard and the same as most people think. So whenever there is some upset, his predict falls apart :)
2012-03-04 16:16
FNATIC ALL THE WAY 16-0 EVERYONE GG ^^
2012-03-04 11:30
2 replies
agree, GOGO FnaticRC
2012-03-04 11:48
16x0 not...
2012-03-04 21:48
go fnatic :D
2012-03-04 11:32
1 reply
fnatic m5 winfact lions esahara semhorah gg
2012-03-04 13:36
semxorah 3th imo...
2012-03-04 11:34
5 replies
m5 and winfact already > semhorah on lan
2012-03-04 13:49
4 replies
#175
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Brazil Kohzito
m5 i think so... but winfakt < sem xorah
2012-03-04 16:09
3 replies
#191
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France motion:
lool, WinFakt > semXorah anyday. the only team that sX will put up a fight is against eSahara.mix which i think they'll win. Even eSahara with full roster, i think that eSahara would become superior.
2012-03-04 17:34
2 replies
Take care, they can surprise you :D
2012-03-04 23:28
1 reply
#229
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France motion:
hope for it, let's see :D
2012-03-05 10:04
I expected your prediction for your team but good move with Nix0n.
2012-03-04 11:34
3 replies
nixon or gomez always do the predictions for WF, lurppis has never done that himself which is pretty fair
2012-03-04 12:27
2 replies
So if he works out the ranks 1,2,4,5,6 what's gonna be left ;)
2012-03-04 23:03
1 reply
#80 he clearly says that Nixon made the rakings ! And seriously whichever normal person makes the rankings would put wf and lions 3/4 place....so he could've just left out n3 and n4 and left them for nix to decide ! You people are really close-minded and narrow-headed if you stuff like that happens with people at the pro-scene (any pro-scene as a matter of fact, from football to CS)
2012-03-04 23:19
I agree with fnatic being first and M5 second , but I have the feeling that semXorah will end 3rd and not 5th.
2012-03-04 11:34
1 reply
+1, as a good fanboy I believe them
2012-03-04 23:30
Gl MODDII
2012-03-04 11:35
lol WinFakt 3rd .... Lions is stronger than ur team tomi , fact !!!
2012-03-04 11:36
40 replies
Prediction by Marc "Nix0n" Winther Kristensen
2012-03-04 11:41
12 replies
#34
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Kosovo goldborn_
u don`t see one thing here before winfakt`s prediction came he pointer lions to get 4th so what remained for winfakt was 3rd no matter whose prediction it was
2012-03-04 11:49
11 replies
+1
2012-03-04 12:04
probably the difference between lions and wf was made by nix not by lurppis...and let's get serious here, we have no idea how lions' shape will be, on the other hand wf has been practicing all this time and it's safe to assume that they'll advance
2012-03-04 12:30
8 replies
"it's safe to assume that they'll advance" how is that safe in any way? winfakt is the only team that has been practicing? Lions is by the way the better team when both teams are on form, so nothing is safe here.
2012-03-04 13:00
7 replies
You're missing my point and being ignorant, in fact doing what anyone without arguments would do ! Lions are nowhere to be seen atm, they dont play gathers, we rarely see them! Even if they are practicing it is really arguable whether they'll be able to display a performance like at DHW, since they've been going up and down all the time! On the other WF has been pretty active and participating at all events they could get in (only top10 team wih more than 1 LAN event this year)! I'm just making arguments why would any NORMAL person choose a team that's in the highlights over a team that's in the shadows in the last 40-50 days! And you have no arguments that LIONS are better than WF when they both at their best...why ? because they've played only 1 match, ONLINE, with a stand-in and with WF having a new line-up, with big changes role-wise
2012-03-04 15:31
6 replies
I'm basing that one Lions beating both ESC and Na'Vi in a playoff, something I doubt WF will ever achieve. WF is a team that has been at most events and never done anything. No, placing 2nd at an event where SK is the only other really good team isn't an achievement. And you don't know anything about how prepared Lions is, unless you're stalking them on Steam or something. "Safe to assume", haha.
2012-03-04 16:00
5 replies
And once again a HLTV.org user is using the dumbest logic ever ! This is not math ! I don't stalk anyone on steam (as a matter of fact I dont use my steam acc anymore) , I watch the stream occasionally and I've never seen a LIONS's player, while WF are pretty loud about what they're doing !
2012-03-04 16:11
4 replies
Do you know the meaning of "safe to assume"? When you don't know anything about Lions at the moment, how can you safely assume anything? You talking about logic.. oh the irony.
2012-03-04 17:32
3 replies
seriously you are biggest moron around here! WF is active atm everybody knows what's happning with them and how hard they're practising LIONS we haven't seen in 40 days ! Ofc that is better to rank WF > LIONS cause whatever you say about LIONS is 3 months old => a lot in terms of CS! Ofc Nix said the reasonable thing, but the real problem here is that lurppis has so many haters that they wont stop flaming about WF unless WF gets rockbottomed ! READ, UNDERSTAND than REPLY ok> THINK FIRST, TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I WANTED TO SAY THEN COMMENT !
2012-03-04 17:49
2 replies
then* "a lot in terms of CS" xDxD "ofc that is better to rank WF > LIONS" haha, of course not. It's ridiculous how clueeless you are.
2012-03-04 18:10
1 reply
hatersg0nnahate
2012-03-04 18:18
#76
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Latvia GekonsCS
+1
2012-03-04 12:36
"Prediction by Marc "Nix0n" Winther Kristensen"
2012-03-04 11:41
2 replies
Some people lack the ability of reading, ain't new in here HLTV.org
2012-03-04 11:43
2012-03-04 12:04
WinFakt has good players bro...try spectating BASiC, his game is good as f0rest.....
2012-03-04 11:45
11 replies
fOrest and NEO are the god of CS, but there are so many players as good as BASiC.
2012-03-04 11:50
10 replies
SK is so weak before fOrest join
2012-03-04 11:53
1 reply
SK was also weak when f0rest joined, in first five months he played shit sorry to say....It was only after dreamhack things changed.....
2012-03-04 12:21
sorry bro, I dont see anything special from f0rest when I spectate him..... NEO is 2x better than f0rest, because he carries the whole team of ESC... I think f0rest is good but overrated player imo.... I want to see what damage f0rest can do individually if he was in a team like LIONS or fnatic.....
2012-03-04 12:23
7 replies
haha, no he doesn't. I'm really sick and tired of people creating the illusion of Neo carrying ESC all of the time, cus he doesn't. ESC is a big team machine, and players like TaZ and pasha do really great roles in the team as well. hltv.org/match/2015010-poland-slovakia-c.. Look what happened when the player who's "2x better than f0rest" played without most of his team mates.. he lost 10-20 vs Slovakia. ;)
2012-03-04 13:09
"fan of Neo" OK
2012-03-04 13:31
You obviously have been watching/playing counter-strike for less than 1 year. "I want to see what damage f0rest can do individually if he was in a team like LIONS or fnatic.....", its funny since f0rest has been the best along with neo for years playing For fnatic.
2012-03-04 14:03
4 replies
bro the thing is that f0rest can only make good score in top team....in mix i saw him play...he play really bad....
2012-03-04 14:16
3 replies
you really think he's trying? He's laughing and trolling all the time! congratz you are the winner !
2012-03-04 15:34
mix compare with lan-game? oh what a retard...
2012-03-05 12:42
1 reply
you think i dont know that?
2012-03-05 12:51
nix0n predict they will be 3rd so don`t blame tomi this time.
2012-03-04 11:53
9 replies
if lurppis predict, definitively WinFakt will be 1st in B group
2012-03-04 11:59
2 replies
ofc NOT!
2012-03-04 12:31
so it mean that if zneel predict, then LIONS will be 1st?
2012-03-04 12:33
#79
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Latvia GekonsCS
omg :D u people are idiots...if lurppis predict every other teams place leaving just 3rd place team unpredicted than Nix0n just can't give WF any other spot than 3rd place which tomi left in his thoughts for WF himself....so yeah...tomi predicted WF 3rd place....LAWYERED!
2012-03-04 12:38
5 replies
dont blame me thats about reality WF = LIONS but thats the real about the group. but who knows what will happen 3rd and 4th will doubt who goes to the playoffs. but will be see on wednesday. :)
2012-03-04 13:01
2 replies
are you really british?
2012-03-04 13:11
1 reply
Are you really Ethiopian?
2012-03-04 15:51
#80 case closed!
2012-03-04 17:57
#243
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United States lurppis
i didnt add predictions for any team in this group, i left them out completely (because i knew kids would flame) but apparently nix0n chose to add them later on.
2012-03-06 07:47
agreed, Lions owned niko and zneel.
2012-03-04 11:56
#75
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Latvia GekonsCS
agree!
2012-03-04 12:35
go fnatic lions gl
2012-03-04 11:40
hope to see WinFakt rise to top5 teams begging with this tournament :PP
2012-03-04 11:40
go fnatic :)
2012-03-04 11:41
<3 fnatic
2012-03-04 11:41
go sX fnx
2012-03-04 11:41
1. Moscow5 2. fnatic 3. Lions 4. WinFakt 5. eSahara 6. semXorah !
2012-03-04 11:41
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Brazil hugoooo
if sX lose to eSahara with two stand-ins, they better quit forever
2012-03-04 11:42
2 replies
I don't see them losing vs eSahara. But it will be hard for them to place higher than 5th.
2012-03-04 12:05
hahaha +1
2012-03-04 23:35
in my option: 1.fnatic 2/3. Moscow Five and Lions 4.eSAHARA 5.WinFakt 6.semXorah
2012-03-04 11:42
1 reply
I LOL'd hard at eSAHARA on 4th haha
2012-03-04 14:14
1- fnatic 2- Winfakt 3- sX or M5
2012-03-04 11:42
2 replies
there is no chance for semXorah
2012-03-04 11:46
1 reply
more than tyloo hahaha
2012-03-05 17:07
1º fnatic 2º Moscow5 3º WinFakt/sX
2012-03-04 11:43
I think it was wrong in predicting the sX and ugly
2012-03-04 11:43
gl for all
2012-03-04 11:44
Is been sooooo long since i've seem kHRYSTAL 'On-Fire' mode. I wish he shows up big time this tourney...
2012-03-04 11:45
fnatic moscow5 lions winfakt eSEHARA semxorah
2012-03-04 11:46
imo eSAHARA>semXorah
2012-03-04 11:46
1. Moscow5 2. WinFakt 3. Lions
2012-03-04 11:47
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Brazil brutAo
1st - fnatic 2nd - M5 3rd - Lions 4th - sX 5th - WinFakt 6th - eSAHARA
2012-03-04 11:47
1 reply
+1 close between 3rd and 4th, but i largely agree.
2012-03-04 12:30
1st-fnatic 2nd-lions 3rd-M5 4th-winfakt 5th-eSahara
2012-03-04 11:52
Still dont get it why is HN now playing with awp not aslak?
2012-03-04 11:57
1 reply
Seems like aslak's taken over the awping role once again. H^N is most likely their second awper.
2012-03-04 12:56
m5 1st group.
2012-03-04 11:58
f5 can beat fnatic,they also play well
2012-03-04 11:59
11 replies
fnatic(with MODDII) is unbeatable
2012-03-04 12:01
10 replies
NaVi doesn't agree.
2012-03-04 12:02
yeah right. ESC, SK, Natus Vincere would beat them...
2012-03-04 12:03
8 replies
SK too.
2012-03-04 12:04
2 replies
Well I wrote SK.
2012-03-04 12:05
1 reply
Hahahahha didnt see it.
2012-03-04 12:06
M5 beat Na'Vi so I don't see your point
2012-03-04 14:24
4 replies
yep they could also beat fnatic, but these teams are still level above M5 no matter who won last game.
2012-03-04 15:23
2 replies
M5 won 5/6 last games against fnatic so I don't see your point. last time they removed pita everyone thought they would be unstoppable until they lost 5-16 against M5 then they quickly added pita again.
2012-03-04 15:37
1 reply
OK dude. You don't see my point because I haven't mentioned M5? Sorry. I think that ESC, SK, Natus Vincere and M5 can beat fnatic. Happy now?
2012-03-04 15:42
m5 beated NaVi 1x, Na`Vi beated M5 847853645378687x...
2012-03-04 17:17
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North Macedonia EXTOL[t]
GO Fnatic-
2012-03-04 11:59
fnatic all the way y'all
2012-03-04 12:02
IMO there is no way for WinFakt to pass group-stage. LIONS, fnatic and M5 are far better then them.
2012-03-04 12:02
GOGOGO semXorah!
2012-03-04 12:05
7 replies
+1 GOGO sX !!
2012-03-04 12:54
6 replies
togather camarade!
2012-03-04 13:03
5 replies
Vai Brasil Carai haeuaheuaheuahaeuheuheauhea!
2012-03-04 14:17
4 replies
go sX
2012-03-04 23:19
3 replies
Go sX, let's show that lurppis is not MÃE DINÁ
2012-03-04 23:37
2 replies
Go sX! Lurppis is not pai de santo!
2012-03-05 14:39
1 reply
go sX, lurrpis isn't pai galo
2012-03-05 17:08
GO MODDII Imo: fnatic 1st, Lions 2nd, semXorah 3rd, 4th Moscow Five, 5th WinFakt, 6 Electronic Sahara.
2012-03-04 12:06
1 reply
wow now that would be a shocker! semXorah last with eSahara :>
2012-03-04 12:16
GOGO fnatic<3
2012-03-04 12:07
1. M5 2. WinFakt/fnatic 3. fnatic/WinFakt
2012-03-04 12:17
Gogo fnatic! Show em how its done! 1. fnatic 2. M5 3. Lions 4. WinFakt 5. eS 6. semXorah
2012-03-04 12:18
2 replies
Man i like all ur music you make!
2012-03-04 13:30
1 reply
Thanks, me breda.
2012-03-04 15:32
1st fnatic 2nd LIONS 3rd M5 4th WinFakt 5th sX 6th eSahara
2012-03-04 12:23
1 reply
+1
2012-03-04 13:17
"This team will clearly live and die with Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo's individual performances" Bitch, please! FNX! Also, i think this team is being HUGELY underrated. Don't forget this is the team that took 4th place at WCG 2010 and crushed EG in WCG Pan-am (with felippe instead of bruno, but then majority considers him to be the worst player of that lineup anyways). I am confident that they will beat Winfakt and will be in a fight with Lions for the 3rd playoff spot. Winfakt is being overrated, i think, partly because Lurppis is the author (i know winfakt part of the writeup is by nixon, but still i'm not sure who did the ranking), they have TWO new players, both of them largely unproven in the international circuit. Edit : Being said that, i'm not saying WF can't advance... Just that odds are against them (but not by a lot).
2012-03-04 12:35
6 replies
wcg 2010....and they got pretty easy opponents all the way to the semis (EG after lurppis was never impressive) Look at the stats from WCG'11 you'll see that fallen was the only one carrying the team and fnx was no where to be seen
2012-03-04 12:43
3 replies
hltv.org/?pageid=217&eventid=659 That is about as easy/hard as everyone else, except NaVi.
2012-03-04 13:07
2 replies
they met area51 and tyloo...than team from top and they lost
2012-03-04 14:09
So that makes WCG a shitty event and ofc not a real picture of a team's level!
2012-03-04 15:36
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United States lurppis
fnx hasn't been anywhere near fallen's level of play in a few years now. i never played at pan-am because of nationality restrictions and we had a whopping two days of practice for iem america. they were a good team, but with a new player and hardly any practice i doubt they will make much noise.
2012-03-04 12:44
1 reply
hltv.org/?pageid=246&playerid=557&eventi.. hltv.org/?pageid=246&playerid=2023&event.. Yes, fallen is definitely better, but fnx has been doing a lot of damage in quite a few as well. They are not so much "one man army" as some other teams (as far as fire power goes). About the group stage, i respect your opinion, but i still believe they are a genuine threat to you and Lions because i don't see them as sX, i see them as Firegamers -bruno + felippe, which sounds a lot better, atleast in my head.
2012-03-04 12:57
gl M5 !! <3
2012-03-04 12:30
#70
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Latvia GekonsCS
omg.... Prediction: 3rd in group B for WINFAKT ? seriously ? Lions > winfakt ANYTIME!
2012-03-04 12:30
I think M5 will rape this group.:)
2012-03-04 12:33
#74
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Poland dalaylama
1.fnatic 2.m5 3.WinFakt
2012-03-04 12:34
lurppis you are very optimistic :) Lions > WinFakt
2012-03-04 12:36
3 replies
WinFakt (allu, aslak, BASiC, H^N, lurppis) Prediction by Marc "Nix0n" Winther Kristensen
2012-03-04 13:18
2 replies
ok nvm
2012-03-04 13:28
1 reply
:)
2012-03-04 13:28
fnatic will probably win the group quite easily, then it's really open for 2nd-4th
2012-03-04 12:38
#80
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United States lurppis
For the record, Nix0n wrote the preview for WinFakt and made all the predictions for group, I left them out because regardless of what I said, unles I said my team would place dead last, people would whine about it :)
2012-03-04 12:43
3 replies
hatersg0nnahate
2012-03-04 12:44
1 reply
+1
2012-03-04 13:19
:D
2012-03-04 12:47
good luck fnatic <33
2012-03-04 12:44
MOSCOW FIVE TOP 1 B GROUP!
2012-03-04 12:47
Look at group A, now look at group B, one more time look at group A then look at B. What you thinking?! Its experiment write your thoughts.
2012-03-04 12:49
1 reply
SK, NAVI, ESC FNATIC, LIONS, M5 all 6 teams very strong ;)
2012-03-04 13:28
riiiigth, All i can say confidently is sX will beat winfakt and get 3rd spot in group :D
2012-03-04 12:50
1 reply
bravo
2012-03-04 14:44
glglgl for all :DDA
2012-03-04 13:06
"Currently I would rank them 4-5th best in the world along with Moscow Five, who they had a long history of besting up until IEM6 GC Kiev where the Russians came out on top in the third place decider." once again, doesn't make sense. M5 beat fnatic almost every single time in the past year. fnatic managed to win one group match once but before IEM6 GC Kiev M5 won bo3 against fnatic at MSI Beat It Russia (2-0) and Dreamhack (16-5).
2012-03-04 13:06
3 replies
#114
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United States lurppis
fnatic of summer 2011 doesn't clearly compare, they were a much weaker team in comparison with only 3 same players. msi beat it russia was a sketchy result because it was on forge which no one else had played at the time. fnatic beat them easily at dreamhack winter. fnatic has also achieved more as a team, even if they've lost head to head.
2012-03-04 13:31
2 replies
haha this is crazy, first you said: "they had a long history of besting up until IEM6 GC Kiev" while in fact M5 won 5/6 last maps against fnatic. how doesn't it compare? the majority of the team is still the same and they are still fnatic and the same counts for M5 before they added dosia and fox? so how can you see a long history? ever since M5 in it's current composition was formed they have consistently won against fnatic. you keep blaming it on de_forge which has been around for ages and everyone is familiar with this map. it was announced well in advance this map would be played and both teams had enough time to prepare this map. you always blame it on forge which is funny because M5 won fairly easy on de_train (which btw is their weakest map) and then played a very close game on de_forge.
2012-03-04 14:48
1 reply
#182
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United States lurppis
fnatic wins over m5: - iem kiev groups - dreamhack winter groups - msi beat it groups - eswc qualifier m5 wins over fnatic: - msi beat it (incl forge) - iem kiev 3rd place decider once agin, fnatic has clearly won more times. msi beat it is sketchy because the organizers did not tell any teams before the event started that you pick before removing, meaning you have to practice all 7 maps. no one told us that, so everyone thought we could remove forge vs them. lineups only count as long as they are the same five or at least very similar (max one different player). changing friis and moddii/pita for manne and dsn are hardly even similar, so i discard them
2012-03-04 16:46
easy for ESC ;]
2012-03-04 13:11
cmon!
2012-03-04 13:14
gogogogo fnatic!
2012-03-04 13:19
LIONSSSSSSSSSSS!! GOGO!1 L0serfakt will never get 3rd
2012-03-04 13:26
1 reply
+1
2012-03-04 14:07
I think Lions will be really good on this tournament, so they will be fighting for first place with fnatic. The same is with M5 but they often fail on big LAN's.
2012-03-04 13:30
gogogo,fnatic :d
2012-03-04 13:43
1. Moscow5 2. WinFakt 3. fnatic 4. Lions 5. semXorah 6. eSahara
2012-03-04 13:52
1 reply
+1
2012-03-05 12:07
gl fnatic
2012-03-04 13:55
luppis, you are so objective, but M5 will be top1, all will be ruined by deagle 5
2012-03-04 14:00
1º fnatic 2º Moscow Five 3º Lions 4º semXorah 5º WinFakt 6º eSAHARA
2012-03-04 14:04
1.m5 2.fnatic(?Lions) 3.Lions(?fnatic) 4.Winfrakt 5.eSahara.net 6.semXorah
2012-03-04 14:12
1- fnatic 2- M5 3- Lions/WinkFat 4- WinkFat/Lion 5- semXorah 6- eSAHARA Thats a realistic previewe, but Im, ofc, personally cheering for sX surprise eveyone and even me and rob that 3rth. They have practice a lot and I have accompanied it. We cant forget, this team is formed by 3 mibr wolrd champions and the best player of Brazil in the last years(Fallen), so they are able to surprise.
2012-03-04 14:22
1º semXorah/fnatic 2º semXorah/fnatic 3º Moscow Five/Lions 4º Moscow Five/Lions 5º eSAHARA 6º WinFakt
2012-03-04 14:25
3 replies
LOL.
2012-03-04 15:55
2 replies
I'm also laughing but don't do it, we South Americans are very confident in sX But I admit, this guy is really OVERRATING sX, 1º and 2º no, on 3º we can dream.
2012-03-04 23:53
1 reply
Ok,GL semXorah:)
2012-03-05 08:04
1. Lions 2. Fnatic 3. M5
2012-03-04 14:33
1º fnatic 2º semXorah 3º Lions 4º Moscow Five 5º Winfakt 6º eSAHARA
2012-03-04 14:35
nice lurppis!
2012-03-04 14:43
I agree with all of this pretty much, i think lions / winfakt are too close to call for the 3rd spot.
2012-03-04 15:05
1 - M5 2 - fnatic 3 - sX/Lions 4 - sX/Lions 5 - Winfakt 6 - Esahara
2012-03-04 15:11
nixon made prediction for WF. nixon placed WF on 3rd place, which was free after lurpis predictions. seems legit.
2012-03-04 15:14
1 reply
#244
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United States lurppis
i wrote the texts for each team, i didn't predict any team to place anything :) yes, sounds legit.
2012-03-06 07:58
GOGO semXorah top1 lets'go!
2012-03-04 15:31
1. M5 2. fnatic 3. Lions 4. sX 5. WinFakt 6. eSahara I think sX should definitely not be underrated, I'm rooting for a 3 way tie between lions sx and winfakt but Lions will probably have the best rounds difference if that happens. sX is inconsistent but on a good day they can beat both Lions and WinFakt quite easily.
2012-03-04 15:34
fnx f0 the w1n xD
2012-03-04 15:42
fnatic Lions M5 winfakt sX esahara gogogo LIONS
2012-03-04 15:44
gj lurppis
2012-03-04 15:50
go fnxTRONDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
2012-03-04 16:03
1. fnatic 2. M5 3. WinkFat 4. semXorah 5. Lions 6. eSAHARA
2012-03-04 16:11
sx will surprise.
2012-03-04 16:15
1. fnatic 2. M5 3. WinkFat 4. semXorah 5. Lions 6. eSAHARA 100%
2012-03-04 16:48
1. Moscow Five 2. fnatic 3. semXorah 4. LIONS 5. WinFakt 6. eSAHARA GO semXorah: FalleN, fnx, nak, bit and felippe.
2012-03-04 17:01
#185
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Brazil mykeshox
GO semXorah: did you guys watched the 13 hours non stop training? : D
2012-03-04 17:08
Fnatic winfakt lions m5 esahara semxorah winfakt > m5 lions > m5 fnatic > all
2012-03-04 17:11
GO FNXXXXX GO SX
2012-03-04 17:13
1. fnatic 2. M5 3. sX 4. WF 5. ES
2012-03-04 17:15
#192
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France motion:
1.fnatic 2.M5 3.Lions 4.Winfakt 5.semXorah 6.eSAHARA
2012-03-04 17:37
1 reply
+1
2012-03-04 17:51
GO GO GO Patrik ! go fnatic
2012-03-04 17:38
gl Lions and m5! waiting for their match! :) <3 bouth teams :)
2012-03-04 18:41
#201
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France reakq
1. Moscow5 2. Fnatic 3. WinFakt 4. e-sahara 5. semXorah 6. Lions
2012-03-04 19:12
sX will pass you guys will see
2012-03-04 20:03
1. Fnatic 2. Moscow5 3. Lions 4. Winfakt 5. sX 6. eSAHARA :D
2012-03-04 20:32
fnatic M5 semXorah
2012-03-04 21:09
SemXorah are underestimated (i like that). Let's see if only Fallen can do damage :D GL ALL :D IEM6 will be an amazing event;
2012-03-04 21:53
1 - Lions 2 - M5 3 - WinFakt/fnatic 4 - fnatic/WinFakt 5 - SemXorah 6 - Esahara
2012-03-04 22:21
2 replies
Nice prediction here :)
2012-03-08 12:12
1 reply
ty:D
2012-03-08 12:14
SX Fnatic M5 Lions Winfakt ESahara :)
2012-03-04 22:22
1-Moscow Five 2-SemXorah 3-fnatic 4-Lions 5-Winfakt 6-eS.mix
2012-03-04 22:59
GO M5
2012-03-04 23:00
N0tA > WinFakt: hltv.org/news/7394-video-moderation-vs-w.. =D -Fnatic -eSahara -M5 -Lions -Winfakt -SemXorah
2012-03-04 23:01
go semXorah.AMD 1 - semXorah 2 - fnatic 3 - lions 4 - M5 5 - Winfakt 6 - eSahara
2012-03-04 23:07
3 replies
i believe in the potential of Brazil, not because I am Brazilian, most believing that this is our time.
2012-03-04 23:17
2 replies
+1 and I really think felippe will surprise all of us with a high level game. It's always good to be underrated :D
2012-03-05 00:00
1 reply
+1
2012-03-05 17:04
With old lineup WF can going to playoff, but no now.
2012-03-05 04:08
group B 1:fnatic 2:Lions 3:m5 4:winF 5:semXorah 6:eSahara
2012-03-05 04:16
Go sX !
2012-03-05 05:01
1:fnatic 2:m5 3:sX 4:Lions 5:winF 6:eSahara go sX
2012-03-05 06:47
Nice! Lol, lurppis talking about his own team in third person, haha! And he predicts he'll be 3rd and XD :I see what you did there:
2012-03-05 07:46
2 replies
#230
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France reakq
read more carefully ;) WinFakt (allu, aslak, BASiC, H^N, lurppis) Prediction by Marc "Nix0n" Winther Kristensen
2012-03-05 11:12
haha lol tunatunatuna talks about other people writing something they didnt and obviously doesnt read before he comments :XD
2012-03-05 16:06
#234
ZywOo | 
Peru dbie
fnatic and M5 have a huge advantage to advance. really sad that eSahara is going with backups.
2012-03-05 14:38
Nice tournament ;] Can't wait !
2012-03-05 15:03
fnatic
2012-03-05 19:19
let's go Brazil,race is our strong!!! :D
2012-03-05 19:50
close enough, lurpis=))))) buahhuahuahuahuahua
2012-03-07 18:26
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