WRTT out, ESC to face NiP in THOR

The THOR Open organisers have announced that WRTT have been disqualified from this weekend's qualifier, with ESC Gaming moving on to the semi-finals.

After WRTT's 16-0 and 16-11 victories against ESC Gaming and Ninjas in Pyjamas, respectively, in the sixth qualifier for THOR Open, questions were immediately raised about the legitimacy of the Swedish team's actions.

After those matches, ESC star Filip "Neo" Kubski took to Facebook to say that WRTT were cheating, with the Polish team and NiP both filing a protest with the THOR Open organisers.

Having reviewed all rounds played by WRTT throughout the tournament, the admins could not find any wrongdoing on the Swedish team's part; however, after watching the VOD from Jesper "jw" Wecksell, who was streaming through Twitch.tv, they came across something very suspicious.

Some of those who were following Wecksell's stream asked the Swedish player to search for specific files on his computer in order to check if he had installed some cheating program.

When he typed 'organner', a search result came up, and with it what seemed to be the order confirmation of a cheating software.

Wecksell immediately deleted the VOD from Twitch.tv's website, but it can still be viewed by going here.

Based on this, the THOR Open admins decided to disqualify WRTT and send ESC Gaming to the semi-finals, in which they will meet NiP.

The match between those two teams will be played on Monday at 19:00, with the winner due to meet VeryGames.

The French giants claim that they will be unable to play the final before DreamHack Winter, so that match will most likely be played only after the Swedish event.

Below you can find a video that was made with footage from Wecksell during the match against ESC:

#1
United States eiLoj 
justice!
2012-11-18 19:43
#33
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France Kairos1g 
injustice
2012-11-18 19:54
justice for eveyone playing fps against retards e-boyz !
2012-11-19 00:44
i thought wrtt stronk, but it's wronk
2012-11-18 20:53
wat if they r right?
2012-11-19 16:16
lol
2012-11-18 19:43
n00bs
2012-11-18 19:45
#4
World Moya 
noobs
2012-11-18 19:46
AHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2012-11-18 19:46
SWEET JUSTICE yes ty admins!
2012-11-18 19:47
bye noob
2012-11-18 19:47
#8
Finland jimik 
i knew it, cant get his name known without cheating. pathetic
2012-11-18 19:47
#9
France Spip 
He's clean .. stupid admin
2012-11-18 19:48
here we are... again. so you love cheaters? i'm very tolerant so okay, you can love them.
2013-02-20 23:38
#10
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Georgia Fatal Fighter 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
2012-11-18 19:48
#11
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France Kairos1g 
Why would the login and password be stars in the .txt file ? By the way, afaik, I don't think it's forbidden to have a cheat on your PC, bought or not, is it ? There's no proof of it being launched during the game, are there ?
2012-11-18 19:50
#19
Poland tfg 
haha yeah D: its weird
2012-11-18 19:51
#25
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France Kairos1g 
btw tfg, I think you know about this stuff, so, is it how organner messages look like ?
2012-11-18 19:52
#37
Poland tfg 
awww, its sounds strange, you know, dont you? XD but ye, I saw last message like this around 2009 and it didnt look like this XD this is message from organner id pw <vip panels link> XD
2012-11-18 19:55
#39
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France Kairos1g 
hehe :D
2012-11-18 19:55
#134
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Finland FRGVN 
well why did he delete the vod from twitch immediately then??
2012-11-18 20:28
#138
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France Kairos1g 
Why so curious, omg? Why don't they just ask ESC to replay vs WRTT on a EAC server ?
2012-11-18 20:31
#168
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Finland FRGVN 
like eac would matter.. that video clip had 2-3 scenes that were hacked.. 99% sure..
2012-11-18 20:43
now the all blind bots that said that they didnt cheat can s*ck our d*cks !!!!! hahahahahahhaha eatIT!!!
2012-11-18 19:49
now im laughing at this guys who was thinking that he wasn't cheating :D
2012-11-18 19:49
I wanna see wmb1 defend this guy now
2012-11-18 19:50
yeah lets see wmb defend him witch he cant(= wmb and JW biggest swedish cheaters. God i hate swedish people sometimes. it will be getting romurs about swedish people always cheat like it is for russians :P
2012-11-18 21:55
#15
Poland tfg 
My god! Its 6th time, when I ask : WHERE IS NIXON?! He is not working for hltv.org anymore?
2012-11-18 19:50
he is kind of inactive.
2012-11-18 19:50
OH NO! :/
2012-11-18 19:51
#21
Poland tfg 
But will he come back? ofc nothing against ur news, just wondering, if they let him go, when you joined :P
2012-11-18 19:52
I actually don't know, you are going to have to ask him that :P
2012-11-18 19:54
soo now i should ask you what with winner from IEM contest ?!
2012-11-18 20:19
We are taking care of that now, as far as I know
2012-11-18 20:25
i dont wanna be rude or somethink, but i hear this from june.
2012-11-18 21:09
busted! hahaha good one
2012-11-18 19:50
idiot
2012-11-18 19:51
#23
Germany Dok1 
really? A text file named asdadadas and some "account details" as ****** are a proof? xD EDIT: Not defending here but for real, this can't be a proof, LOL. Could also be just a troll^^
2012-11-18 19:53
#24
France Spip 
There are no real proof
2012-11-18 19:52
"MysaN immediately deleted the VOD from Twitch.tv's website" thats the proof, idiot coward quit and escaped. hahahahah
2012-11-18 19:54
#79
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Ukraine gungrave 
yeeeah this is proof /facepalm
2012-11-18 20:10
#35
Germany Dok1 
yes there is a text file with a message from organner!!111
2012-11-18 19:54
uhm yeah, nice resolution of pic hltv.org... it is 2012 u know :D fix this shiet
2012-11-18 19:52
how do you view it in large scale?
2012-11-18 20:10
how do you view it in large scale?
2012-11-18 20:10
Arrrr, that`s what I call humiliation.
2012-11-18 19:53
#28
France Spip 
So pathetic, Nip lost.
2012-11-18 19:53
#30
World doh 
fuskbugg.se/dl/ydyGWU/jw1.jpg imho could be a joke from jw..
2012-11-18 19:54
#34
Sweden d9lk 
Bad reason to ban him for imo, it could be an inside joke or w/e. (doesn't change my mind that i still think that he cheated)
2012-11-18 20:04
Then why did he delete vod?
2012-11-18 19:55
#46
Germany Dok1 
I guess exactly because of something like this. He knew people would think that's worth a proof
2012-11-18 19:56
Then he is an idiot and should know that it's even more suspicious to delete the evidence (vod)
2012-11-18 20:01
lol the VOD isn't even deleted: sv.twitch.tv/jesperwow/b/341116061 The question is; why does hltv write it in the article?
2012-11-18 20:54
#41
Germany Dok1 
didn't expect you to write this^^ But actually this makes the organisers even more embarrassing. First they make an online qualifier without anti-cheat and now they disqualify a team because of a random text file xD
2012-11-18 19:55
Yes, it could be a joke, but do you usually store jokes in a .txt file on your computer? It's pretty weird to say the least.
2012-11-18 19:58
i do all the time, not weird
2012-11-19 11:11
Well then everything could be a joke. It makes it sound like "the dog ate my homework". It was like schneider was busted a couple of weeks ago in his own stream. He clearly had the cheat loaded which was revealed after clicking the wrong window. He immediately said he had been hacked and that somebody else hacked their way in and started the cheat for him :S You can always blame somebody else. Even this guy tries to blame Schneider when it's found even tho it's clearly in his own name. Remember that the search also found the cheat itself (50.00) "Immunity Duo" is a organner cheat .exe according to my search. So obviously he is a cheater, since who buys a cheat just to never ever use it? BUSTED
2012-11-18 21:22
right
2012-11-19 00:55
#36
Russia cEh9 
omg. dno
2012-11-18 19:54
wmb1, where the fuck are you now ?
2012-11-18 19:55
ahahah
2012-11-18 19:56
thought the same :D still its not really proving anything
2012-11-18 19:59
Since wmb1 is not here, i'll take his place "No no, he has been playing GO since beta, he has 450hrs of retail GO + undetectable 200+hrs of GO Beta. He dropped out of school to play CS He is dedicated He has no social life And thus he is pwning top teams like NiP and ESC All this is pure photoshop. Any kid with a 5 year old PC can do it! Just a ploy by the organizers! HatersG0nnaHate!" Thank you, thank you!
2012-11-18 21:35
#222
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Sweden Snipatore 
he has a life not like you
2012-11-18 21:36
Mad?
2012-11-18 21:42
#228
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Sweden Snipatore 
The only one who's mad is you, not seeing wmb1 online :)
2012-11-18 21:49
What are you talking about ? You high man ?
2012-11-18 21:51
as much as I like cheaters getting caught, this is really guilty until proven innocent and not the other way around.
2012-11-18 19:56
Couldn't agree more. The .txt file is probably just a joke and the "proof" in the video is not enough imo.
2012-11-18 20:25
so if anyone say you did something and you have no way to prove he's wrong then you are guilty?
2012-11-19 11:49
No, my point is it shouldn't be like that. Learn English.
2012-11-19 16:37
Don't be a patronizing bitch. You sentence can be understood both ways.
2012-11-19 17:15
"this is really guilty until proven innocent and not the other way around." Bitch or not, it's very clear.
2012-11-19 17:18
#45
Norway prb- 
Makes me fun that you never disqualify ANYONE at this cup like 2nd qualifier with FMTOXIC vs hiGhrollers with hMp cheating or other qualifiers with snokz vs HastaLaVista but in this qualifier you do it... Why? Mainly because they want NiP or VG to go into the LAN finals because nobody will watch it if they don't go.What about jesper...expected...hope to see my next friend snokz at DHW. You simply have to read: "the admins could not find any wrong doing on the Swedish team's part" Makes me fun...that .txt isn't a real proof although he cheated but sozu fb where do you have your fucking eyes when you watch a demo? I will show you in the THOR finals. If you don't know a shit about the game and you only know to stream and play shit games...just get a fucking anticheat.Simply pathetic.
2012-11-18 20:00
#135
Sweden Mod 
Are you blind? "Having reviewed all rounds played by WRTT throughout the tournament, the admins could not find any wrongdoing on the Swedish team's part; however, after watching the VOD from Jesper "jw" Wecksell, who was streaming through Twitch.tv, they came across something very suspicious."
2012-11-18 20:29
Relax fanboy. Your mate cheated.
2012-11-18 20:47
:P
2014-04-25 14:57
yeah! stupid cheaters!
2012-11-18 19:56
Just one q if it was a joke, which it probably was, why would he take down vod?
2012-11-18 19:57
This.
2012-11-18 20:00
in all fairness the stuff didn't even look that dodgy in the demo/avi - so this as a text document isn't really substantial proof that he was cheating in this specific game... however he could have been using the mobile phone radar cheat; youtube.com/watch?v=oyfxlOuUuc4 which would explain a lot, bit of a weird way of DQ without any proof, in all fairness they should still be allowed to play in THOR Qualifer cups in the future or THOR forced to use AC of some sort even if it's crap
2012-11-18 19:58
#59
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France Kairos1g 
too bad the "remote radar" is not available for CS:GO. He could also have used a free cheat you can find anywhere on internet, like other players of other teams of that qualifier.
2012-11-18 20:00
nice one
2012-11-18 19:58
So where are all the people defending him now?
2012-11-18 19:59
Freak..
2012-11-18 19:59
This is a terrible reason to ban someone, for a text file? Really? Unless it can be linked to a text file from the site that has the same exact wording it's embarrassing for the thor admins. Also why would there be a text file saying that then not include the account name and password? i.imgur.com/QbUjD.gif
2012-11-18 19:59
#60
Norway prb- 
There is no reason for anything. It's not difficult to understand. They disqualify them because they want NiP or VG into the finals or nobody will watch the finals.
2012-11-18 20:02
I agree! +1337
2012-11-18 20:05
Prob true but hes an idiot for joking about cheating and then deleting vod. Don't feel bad for him at all
2012-11-18 20:09
Yeah...thats strange.
2012-11-18 20:46
Why would you even store a .txt file like that on your computer? It's so retarded.
2012-11-18 20:01
#66
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France Kairos1g 
You don't understand that this ban is retarded ? Let's suppose this txt file contains what organner could really have sent to him, it doesn't prove he bought a CS:GO hack (he could have bought a 1.6/CSS/COD one), and it doesn't prove either that he launched it during the game.
2012-11-18 20:05
Doesn't matter. Combine this evidence with the fact that he was very dodgy. He deserved it. If he plays like that on LAN, fair enough. But as far as I know he has not been anywhere near that level during gathers etc. Do you think the professional players have similar files on their computers btw? No way.
2012-11-18 20:10
+1
2012-11-18 20:10
#85
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France Kairos1g 
everyone that has weird file on his computer doesn't get kicked of a competition, especially when there's no proof of an obvious .exe
2012-11-18 20:11
He is free to prove himself at a LAN tournament, which I doubt will happen. If you're being accused of cheating, don't give other people any reason to doubt your innocence. It's like pouring gasoline on a fire.
2012-11-18 20:15
#100
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France Kairos1g 
Maybe they could let him go through the qualifiers, so he will prove himself at LAN ?
2012-11-18 20:16
His teammate xelos was just as dodgy. If they are really innocent, they should just start a new team and go to Dreamhack.
2012-11-18 20:17
There is nothing written about ban, he`s just disqualified from this qualifier. For now.
2012-11-18 20:11
#88
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France Kairos1g 
Yes, but you got my point ^^
2012-11-18 20:12
+1
2012-11-18 20:20
+1
2012-11-18 20:18
#63
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France Kairos1g 
I hope your event will be a failure. Cordially.
2012-11-18 20:02
wallhack
2012-11-18 20:04
If its a joke its a dumb joke and even dumber for him to raise more suspicions by deleting the vod. Frankly he deserves this for being such an idiot. You don't joke about bombs in the airport and it's just as dumb to joke about cheating while playing top teams in the world
2012-11-18 20:05
Agree on this. Even if he didnt cheat it is just too stupid to making jokes like these.
2012-11-18 21:29
#68
Poland jMS 
When ESC vs NiP match is gonna be played?
2012-11-18 20:05
#74
Poland tfg 
read fucking news
2012-11-18 20:09
Omg retards... such a joke tournament...
2012-11-18 20:05
I don't think its right to disqualify them for that. It doesn't really prove anything. Obviously its a fucking joke or the file has been sent to him. Ofcourse he WOULDN'T open that shit on stream infront of ton of viewers, also it doesn't make any sense the the account details are stars and he saves it. Why safe it if theres no details anyway?
2012-11-18 20:16
why would he remove the VOD then
2012-11-18 20:09
Why wouldn't he? If I opened a file on a stream where it said purchased some random cheat, I would also freak out, and when you freak out, you don't know what you are doing. He was probably scared of exactly this, and he made a stupid decision to delete it, but because he deletes it doesn't make him more suspicious in any way. I think most people would have done the same, cheating or not.
2012-11-18 20:12
Why would u keep a file with that shit in it if ur being called a cheater? If he got it from a random guy people would have seen him opening a random file?
2012-11-18 20:16
Listen. He said to his streamers it is schneiders file. I don't know if thats true or not, but lets say it is, he could have easily (as a joke) sent him that file on skype and he would have downloaded it. He checked it out, and forgot everything about it, then he searched for organner and found a file named "dsaouhduaghsd" or something. He opened it as he didn't know what it was, he wouldn't have opened it if he knew it was something regarding cheating in it.
2012-11-18 20:19
Schneiders file with JWs name in it? Or do u mean schneider sent it before? Cuz if he did the streamers would have seen maybe im wrong im just wondering
2012-11-18 20:54
Yeah, he sent it before. A long time ago probably, I don't know. But I agree, it is weird that is has jw's name in it, but its also weird the information is filled out with stars instead.
2012-11-18 21:04
What would you do ?
2012-11-18 20:16
#86
Norway prb- 
Why does he remove the VOD then? Doesn't make a rly sense.
2012-11-18 20:11
#87
2012-11-18 20:14
He cheated.
2012-11-18 20:46
Whatever you say, einstein. Also, he didn't remove the VOD.
2012-11-18 20:48
I know more than you about everything so don't make me to release anything more. youtube.com/watch?v=wZQh3Z7M_cQ i47.tinypic.com/o6l380.jpg
2012-11-18 20:49
I've seen both of those. The tinypic picture shows a picture in July. Not now. Doesn't look like his dekstop at all either. Also, in the video, he states its schneiders. What is there to know?
2012-11-18 20:51
"you admins" Are you under the assumption HLTV has anything to do with it? (Before the edit)
2012-11-18 20:19
Not at all, I also edited my post because of this exact reason, wasn't meant to call out any from HLTV.org.
2012-11-18 20:20
Good decision. Next time use anticheat dear organizers.
2012-11-18 20:09
fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-a.. ^picture of jw no wonder he cheats, he was dealt a shit hand in life. and by hand i mean face
2012-11-18 20:11
^ stupid Why would you look at someone's appearance ? At least half of pro cs players aren't good looking..
2012-11-18 20:15
I don't think so.
2012-11-18 23:13
is he 15 or something?
2012-11-18 20:25
#227
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Sweden Snipatore 
would like to see ur fking horrible face :)
2012-11-18 21:49
"Justice has been served!" - Isn't that what people usually say in these situations :)?
2012-11-18 20:12
it's good that admins are taking action, it's virtually impossible to ever actually prove someone cheated online so if people aren't banned when it's 95% likely someone cheated, you will never ban anyone and players will be able to cheat all they want. good call.
2012-11-18 20:12
With 0 evidence apart from an obvious troll, yeah, good call.
2012-11-18 22:53
On what basis do you say it's 95% likely? Did you find his game too suspecious?
2012-11-19 10:15
The admins should let them play : 1. It's the admins fault, they should provided servers with anti-cheat. 2. There is no proof that he actually cheated. 3. SOME of the actions look a little suspicious, but that's not why he got banned, pressure from NiP & ESC, both well known teams, so they must disqualify WRTT in order for the tournament not becoming a joke.
2012-11-18 20:12
Anti-cheat wouldn't have mattered though, considering organner goes through all anti-cheats that are available for CS:GO atm.
2012-11-18 20:20
why would they do that lol? because of what? 2-3k euro? bueheheh. get a life kid. some random swedish cheaters got caught and they are now banned. end of story.
2012-11-18 20:37
not so random, but ok. it shows that the admins are in favour of NiP&ESC, why won't LLL play re-match ? but it is what it is. And the only one who was apparently cheating was jesperw/jw..
2012-11-18 21:17
Wait a second, he streamed the match while he was supposedly cheating?
2012-11-18 20:13
ofcourse yes lol, expected from a GO kid ... !
2012-11-18 20:14
That sounds too good to be true.
2012-11-18 20:19
ah now I get what you meant; No he doesen't stream real matches so he also didn't stream the match vs ESC and Nip.
2012-11-18 20:21
Ah, got it.
2012-11-18 20:24
#105
CHEDEL | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
i read somewhere that "No" because he doesn't have a good pc.
2012-11-18 20:17
what? He was streaming and people were asking him in the chat to search for files on his computer.
2012-11-18 20:17
New cs:GO chickens wanna defeat 1.6ers ? lol my ass, go play TETRIS please
2012-11-18 20:14
why we LLL aren't play ESC then and the winner of that will play NiP??
2012-11-18 20:14
#133
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France Kairos1g 
Because you hacked.
2012-11-18 20:27
cy@ gerrah!!!
2012-11-18 20:33
Hahaha fucking epic
2012-11-19 00:52
Hahahahaha stupid fat cheating kid. Finally.
2012-11-18 20:16
Dear Filip Kubski We have successfully finished processing your order Your new customer account details for members.organner.pl panel are: Login: ******** Password: ******** Thank You for your Purchase! Please enjoy our services. EDIT: This means NEO should be banned, doesen't it? But this in a text file and make a screenshot, then you have a proof!
2012-11-18 20:26
retard... put it on his pc, let him open it while he streams and then we talk
2012-11-18 20:40
ok and then it will be a proof?
2012-11-18 20:43
then it will be suspicious now add suspicious results, suspicious demo and suspicious friends/defenders voila
2012-11-18 21:02
This is no proof even, get real evidence and then start talking
2012-11-18 20:17
swedish troll
2012-11-18 21:40
Umm, guys, what do You think about this: i47.tinypic.com/o6l380.jpg Pic taken from JW stream. Still don't know if WRTT is innocent and JW was doing VERY dumb joke which made his team disqualified.
2012-11-18 20:17
wtf are you posting there, it have different resolution and windows style from pic taken from recent stream this topic is about.
2012-11-18 20:21
2012-07-27
2012-11-18 20:25
I see. I looked in google and immunity duo is cheat software.
2012-11-18 20:30
ah lol I was quite confused but it seems that it's schneiders printscreen (#110)
2012-11-18 20:47
So that means he had cheats during CS: GO Beta but I doubt that organner could make cheats&hax for CS: GO so early.
2012-11-18 20:35
My crappy laptop and tinypic :p It's JW opening pic with him maybe launching hax for CS: GO. It's after opening note with cheat purchase confirmation from organner. Watch JW's VOD it's around 50:00
2012-11-18 20:30
So why is my team not allowed to play against ESC !"??!?!?!?
2012-11-18 20:17
did you guys challenge?
2012-11-18 20:24
#132
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France Kairos1g 
because these admins + qualifiers without AC suck, that's why
2012-11-18 20:26
Just because of viewers.
2012-11-18 20:31
#167
Sweden Mod 
Did you guys make a ticket after the game with accusing them of cheating? That CAN be one of the reasons :) But i wasnt home so i cant say surely!
2012-11-18 20:45
is this yours official statement? who of you decided to ban for THIS reason
2012-11-18 20:48
#184
Sweden Mod 
Read it again please. he wondered why they didnt get a rematch, and i answered with a possibility. I wasnt home at the time when the tournament was started so i cant answer from THORs perspective about chrisJ situation :)
2012-11-18 20:51
I'm talking about the disqualification, wrong post to quote but just askin
2012-11-18 20:53
#198
Sweden Mod 
Ohh sorry! I read that wrong. We all have been involved with demo watching and stuff, but the higher power is the ones with the final word and the statement!
2012-11-18 20:58
Here's something pretty suspicious, he also showed a screenshot with "IMMUNITY Loaded" or something like that. youtube.com/watch?v=wZQh3Z7M_cQ First he said the print is from schneider and then he said "ye sure I loaded it 07-17" ironiclly, note I. it's not relevant with this, but that he actually had cheat in july xD or nvm, i think it's actually schneiderS printscreen
2012-11-18 20:26
organner owned!
2012-11-18 20:20
worst bust in the history of the CS franchise
2012-11-18 20:22
+1
2012-11-18 20:31
sad4jw =D
2012-11-18 20:23
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahah xD
2012-11-18 20:26
#139
ton | 
Brazil FavelaJz 
yes, ban this!
2012-11-18 20:31
Dear Filip Kubski We have successfully finished processing your order Your new customer account details for members.organner.pl panel are: Login: ******** Password: ******** Thank You for your Purchase! Please enjoy our services. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHHAH NOOOOOB !
2012-11-18 20:31
LOL now put it in a .txt and neo is BUSTED. cY@!!!
2012-11-18 20:32
He isnt unless its on his computer. :)
2012-11-18 20:33
Neo has more accomplishments than your whole team combined x10
2012-11-18 20:33
LOL DIDNT KNOW! NEVER PLAYED 1.6
2012-11-18 20:34
ROFL :D
2012-11-18 20:37
it shows LOL
2012-11-18 20:44
neo's dog has more accomplishments than whole his country...
2012-11-18 21:41
ahhahahahahahahaah
2012-11-18 22:24
HHahahaahahahAHAHA :D
2012-11-19 08:45
oh, you also have that evidence? I think pasha has the same file..., look here: i.imgur.com/czd4n.jpg
2012-11-18 20:41
nice, damn hacker and sad for the thor open you should have the anti-cheating system well.
2012-11-18 20:32
Cant wait to see WRTT perform on LAN.
2012-11-18 20:34
Performing on streets is more likely.
2012-11-18 20:35
can't wait to see their statement
2012-11-18 20:36
Gotta hand it to twitch.tv! They knew he was streaming so they replaced account info in that .txt file, which btw clearly proves that he did cheat, with stars! Technology is awesome.
2012-11-18 20:38
2012-11-18 20:39
#160
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France Kairos1g 
Here that people ? It's not removed ! Now I want to see WRTT vs VG !
2012-11-18 20:40
lol, why is it stated in the article? This is getting funnier with everything that shows up...
2012-11-18 20:43
it's not what u think guys
2012-11-18 20:49
Are you saying that he knew that organisators were going to force him to show files on his computer through stream?
2012-11-18 20:43
Wow this is... seriously? The Thor admins have seemingly shown themselves to be retarded morons who will make bad decisions if people scream loudly enough. This was not a reason to DQ a team, as only the slowest of the stupidest of players actually thinks that this even comes close to evidence. Basically they couldn't find a reason to DQ him because his gameplay was legit, so they decided to find any reason they could so they would make NiP happy. Shows the Thor admins lack morals or sense, and I'll be boycotting them and their tournies in the future.
2012-11-18 20:40
+1
2012-11-18 20:42
you're annoying german piece of shit imo.
2012-11-18 21:42
why? Because I don't agree with organisers of a big tournament disqualifying a team because of an undoubtly faked text file?
2012-11-18 22:08
i actually used organner's cheat in css and this one is clearly a fake text file. He doesn't cheat, he's a skilled player,don't be mad because he beated both nip and esc gaming.
2012-11-18 20:46
And why would he have such fake text file saved on his computer?
2012-11-18 20:52
because he got that text from a mate but it contained another name, the nickname of the mate and the time in front of every line. So he probably made a random text file (with a random asdadasd name), pasted it in there, deleted that name/time stuff and changed the name to "Dear ...". But I guess you will see, statement is incoming I think...;)
2012-11-18 20:58
If he did then it`s his own mistake for pulling such crap. I guess "welcome to retardia" would be what I would say if it was a joke.
2012-11-18 21:00
true, still you could put that slogan on the THOR admins.
2012-11-18 21:05
retarded admins...
2012-11-18 20:51
ISn't it unfair for the rest of the teams who faced them before? (:
2012-11-18 20:52
It's like CB Nations, lol.
2012-11-18 20:54
#194
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Greece her-1g 
burn the cheater!!
2012-11-18 20:55
oi nordics, go snowmen on the street ye
2012-11-18 20:55
Anyway, now we`re gonna see NiP vs ESC, ye. :)
2012-11-18 20:56
#197
United Kingdom wap 
Of course it is fair for the admins to ban him based on this, why wouldn't it be? If I had a bomb at home would you just assume I was not going to use it? I know you can't really compare the situations, but I hope you get the point. Even if he didn't cheat, he brought this upon himself.
2012-11-18 20:58
that would be the case if he actually has the cheat client on his pc. With your example that guy would have a piece of paper at home with "bomb" text on it.
2012-11-18 21:00
#207
United Kingdom wap 
Actually, yes, I apologize, I failed to read all of it. I thought he actually had the hack on his computer. However I still find the video to be suspicious.
2012-11-18 21:04
#200
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France Kairos1g 
2012-11-18 20:59
100% proof!
2012-11-18 21:03
video link plz
2012-11-18 21:06
now what wmb and all jw's lawyers are going to argue about? "he dropped school to follow his dream be a professional cs player"...cheating lool
2012-11-18 21:02
Why is everyone on cheaters side? its so fucking obvious that they cheated. they are not even top 10 in sweden and then all of a sudden be best in the world as a mix?
2012-11-18 21:05
Because, there's no real evidence. What they've showed is a ridiculous "bust movie" which doesn't show anything suspicious. Or maybe the pro players never tried shooting through a smoke and made reflex shots or checked where an enemy might be even thou he doesn't know and the txt file just seems to trolly.
2012-11-18 21:13
ok lets say they won qualifer and went to that thor lan, what would have happened there? 0-16 0-16 0-16 in groupstage? because as what ive seen on jws stream is a fucking terrible player. magic cant happen that fast and you know that aswell.
2012-11-18 21:17
I'll agree, it's an odd reason to disqualify a team. But it's also odd that he'd have such a .txt file on his computer in the first place. If WRTT show up at the DreamHack BYOC, win it, then rip apart NiP and ESC on LAN, then I'll be convinced that they're legit. Until then, they're still suspect in my book.
2012-11-18 21:15
whats even more suspicious is that they won a spot in esportsm and were gonna play western wolves @ dreamhack but they declined... even though they won the qualifiers with good teams.
2012-11-18 21:21
In the end a good call.
2012-11-18 21:26
Good call. Its kinda strange that so many mixteams sign up for these online qualifiers and so few attends the LAN with the same lineup, why even bother playing a qualifer if you know you arent gonna have enough money to go...
2012-11-18 21:52
n00b
2012-11-18 21:54
Again and again. These people are known as cheater in 1,6. All Swedish player wasn´t surprised about it. Once a cheater, always a cheater
2012-11-18 22:03
LowLandLions should be playing against ESC ..??? i dont understand why such things like this can happen first everybody got hacked and now theyre beeing lame..?
2012-11-18 22:03
hahah what a noobs ;p
2012-11-18 22:04
however,JW can not use organer on his computer, it stood that you must have 32-bit OS, he has 64-bit Product Information CS:GO Framework is our award winning software solution engineered specifically for competetive gamers. CS:GO Framework deploys advanced "Level 1" security policies to guarantee 100% security against PunkBuster and other top anticheats. Stay ahead of the competition with our amazing Visual Enhancement System and jaw dropping Aimbot/Triggerbot System. We do our Homework, so you can enjoy Framework! System Requirements: Windows XP (32 bit) Windows Vista (32 bit) Windows 7 (32 bit)
2012-11-18 22:11
Sluta trolla. Dom är fuskare!
2012-11-18 22:15
just take a look at organner.pl
2012-11-18 22:20
troll!
2012-11-18 23:02
who cares-.-
2013-02-21 15:20
+1 Good find. I was skeptical so I looking at the "pre-sales questions" section on the Organner forums and Organner himself claimed that none of his software is compatible with 64-bit systems.
2012-11-18 22:58
Because there is absolutely NO such thing as dual booting an OS. Wait..
2012-11-18 23:09
jesus christ you're all morons, he's probably one of those people who load up a 'self-bust' to get exactly what you all originally gave him. it's just a hoax that has backfired.. a notepad? starring his details? good to know that a tournament with, i'm guessing, a respectable amount of prize money bans a guy over a notepad file. if it was a win vs anyone other than top teams would have been a different matter entirely
2012-11-18 22:16
+1 to this
2012-11-18 22:29
<tinfoil hat> Agreed 100%. I have seen absolutely no proof of cheating. This all just seems like faux-drama to stir up controversy within the community, with the end goal to create a "grudge match" final of NiP vs VG. Motive? Easy. NiP has a large fan base that will tune in to watch their matches. There is no arguing the fact that the finals stream will have twice the amount of viewers with NiP than some unknown team. Also, anyone that has done their homework or been on the Organner forums for more than 2 minutes, knows that their cheat software is NOT compatible with 64-bit systems whatsoever. If he was dual booting 32-bit (even though when he streams CS:GO he has shown that his system is running 64-bit Windows), the cheat he's accused of using (Immunity) features no visuals at all. It is a standalone aimbot/triggerbot. For a player that streams, has 64-bit, and is being accused of wallhacking with a cheat that doesn't even feature a wallhack OR compatibility with 64-bit systems... the likelihood of him cheating is close to zero. If you need any more reasons to be suspicious of this decision--the Twitch VOD that this article is claiming was deleted--was, in fact, NOT deleted. See for yourself @ twitch.tv/jesperwow/b/341116061 Why did the article blatantly lie about the VOD being deleted? I don't know, but it leaves me very skeptical about this whole ordeal. </tinfoil hat>
2012-11-18 22:56
Good post man. Did he stream the THOR matches though? He could have played on a different system if he wasn't streaming.
2012-11-18 23:03
Thanks! It seems he did not stream the matches. At least from the few minutes of searching I did I wasn't able to find the match VODs on his Twitch channel. It's most certainly possible he played the matches on a different system, or even dual booted a 32-bit version of Windows. Regardless, it should be innocent until proven guilty, and so far there's been no concrete evidence of cheating. NiP and ESC are without a doubt immensely talented gamers with a long history of accomplishments, but they aren't infallible. Every team is beatable. Upsets happen in every competitive outlet (athletic sports and eSports). Why are they not allowed to happen in this game, which happens to be quite random at times?
2012-11-18 23:16
Hm well, I agree they should be innocent until proven guilty. If they wanted to disqualify the swedes, they should arrange rematches for the other teams who got beaten by WRTT in the tournament too, not only ESC (because they were the one to call them out). That is bad style imo. Right now it just seems like the event organisators want a final between NiP and ESC.
2012-11-19 00:07
#282
Sweden wmb 
great post but you honestly dont know what ur saying. organner isnt the only provider here and uh, you dont need to fux with kernel in general. techniques that are invasive are more preferred! you can unlock patchguard etc to get the 32bit kernel actually xDddDdD!
2012-11-19 10:43
after I saw the results I know that they cheated !
2012-11-18 22:17
nice cheating
2012-11-18 22:27
Pathetic by THOR. Terrible tournament, with no anti cheat. Whether they cheated or not, a blatent troll by this guy is taken seriously.
2012-11-18 22:52
lol ,he trolled ,stupid admins=]
2012-11-18 22:58
no there are no stupid admins, he cheating in 100% no doubt
2012-11-18 23:04
i still dont rly care but i hope esc will win
2012-11-18 23:08
username: ******* password: ******** not very secure
2012-11-18 23:12
why are they banned? that vid proves nothing. csgo game for fags.
2012-11-18 23:19
For great justice! NIP VS ESC, Will be awesome, though perhaps one sided.
2012-11-18 23:30
"I think the admin was drunk and mixed up .txt with .exe"
2012-11-18 23:56
sopjävel.
2012-11-18 23:59
Too bad JW got all the attention when he didn't cheat while the person that really used cheats in these games was you. You better hide that Triggerbot better next time dude.
2012-11-19 14:33
#267
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Macedonia EXTOL[t] 
Sadly Verry Stuped People
2012-11-19 00:26
shame ...
2012-11-19 00:38
30e/month :s
2012-11-19 01:00
Oh my, it's very clear from this vid that he's playing the player and not the angles. Good riddance.
2012-11-19 01:26
1. The supposed deletion of jw's VOD never took place (sv.twitch.tv/jesperwow/b/341116061) - why does nobody at HLTV correct that part of the news? 2. youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde.. - there's nothing suspicious to be found here (except if you have eye cancer or play since CS:GO beta). 3. Why is nobody upset about NiP supposedly having affiliations with Thor? If that's true they shouldn't be allowed to participate in the qualifier in the first place, simple as that. 4. Why don't the other teams who got beaten by WRTT get any chance to proceed (if Thor officials are positive about jw cheating)? 5. I don't think he would have opened a cheat-order confirmation in front of hundreds of people's eyes. The file he opened was vacuous because of the missing login details - even if there would have been details displayed, there would still be no proof he had the respective hack a) on his machine and b) running during that match, end of story. 6. The admins couldn't find anything suspicious in his demos. 7. Everytime I watch CS:GO, I feel like it's a bad parody of CS 1.6. 1.6 > GO, anytime of the day.
2012-11-19 02:02
the correct link for the alleged "proof video" in 2. is youtube.com/watch?v=w-8haSl9iG0
2012-11-19 14:04
bashtech.net/twitch/download.php?clip=34.. Watch the video at 49:40 Why did he get so serious if it was a joke?
2012-11-19 02:13
how can you download it?
2013-02-06 12:46
This notepad proof seems like a troll attempt. :-O
2012-11-19 05:52
oh my god... admin have a kidbrain? wtf with this world? O_O
2012-11-19 08:36
The .txt file name is "asdasddas". I don't know but it seems it was a joke. No one supplies the .txt file with such a name after a purchase of some software or a cheat program (I think?). Also: No one supplies a confirmation .txt file without mentioning the login username and password. The screenshot provided above states login and password as "*******". This does not make any sense. It clearly looks like a joke man!
2012-11-19 10:11
The best thing for them is to play some lan event and prove their innocence. The same thing was with COLON and after his lan nobody doughted him. Btw i think they cheated...
2012-11-19 10:09
i dont care if they cheated or not this lan is dodgy as shit, they clearly said they couldnt find anything wrong after watching his demos, so why did they ban him? just saying, they say they think he didnt cheat RIGHT THERE and then they ban him? something is wierd about this situation. but hey i could care less edit: also i think its complete bullshit that they bend the rules for nip and esc and allow them to request more than 2 demos, when i guess you cant. i'm sorry i mean someone in my shoes couldnt but nip/esc can? my point is i just cant stand because nip are butt buddies with the admins they get special treatment. shitty tourney i wont be watching
2012-11-19 10:54
#290
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Malaysia monsteray 
reminds me of COLON ... rofl
2012-11-19 16:38
HLTV should try to get an interview with Jesper and ask him about it
2012-11-19 21:10
i cant see or download the twitch.tv file that you are posting with the VOD :o
2013-02-06 12:46
BAN INCOMING
2013-02-20 23:39
Epsilon come back !
2013-02-20 23:44
guess you could see cheat coming in, the CS:GO is pretty new and still full of opening for cheaters, shame on him tho. The fact he sees through smokes is enough proof. NOBODY SEES THROUGH SMOKE! :)
2013-02-21 08:47
#300
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France Kairos1g 
Was a mistake.
2013-02-21 09:00
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