HLTV.org denied entry into Mind Sports

We at HLTV.org regrettably inform that we have not been given press accreditation for the AMD Sapphire CS:GO tournament, hosted by Heaven Media this weekend.

After learning that the Czech tournament would feature some of the best CS:GO teams in the scene, we contacted Heaven Media on Tuesday evening with a view to securing press accreditation for one of our journalists.

Their response came on Wednesday afternoon: we were told that due to "space issues" at the five-star Corinthia hotel, there is not enough room to accommodate one more single journalist inside the venue. We were also told they are unable to hand out more press accreditations at this time, since we are "too close to the event."

As you can certainly imagine, we operate on a tight budget, and we have to prioritise events where we know that the top teams will be in attendance; as such, it was impossible for us to express our interest in attending this event before, since the participating teams are being announced just days before the tournament actually starts.

None of the major websites that cover CS:GO that we have contacted will send a single journalist to Prague, the only exception being Cadred.org, which is part of the Heaven Media Group and has been announcing on its website for the past few days that it will be doing exclusive coverage of the tournament.

We also have to add that since HLTV.org was created in 2002, this is the very first time that we are not given press accreditation for a tournament.

We regret that we will not be allowed to do what we do best and that those who follow our website will be deprived of our quality on-site coverage of LAN events. We would like to apologise to our users, but rest assured that we will do the best we can to bring you all the info about this tournament from home.

#1
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France pheno71
haha cadred XD
2012-11-28 16:32
8 replies
riched leiwis just smal littel potato wanabe in the business , he big suk noob no brain no life .. X) he just sad cos he fat man drink beers and cry his house :DD mebey he come india for a times and lern some things about respect for other humens .!!
2012-11-28 23:30
7 replies
seems like youve been drinking too!
2012-11-29 01:09
jesus
2012-11-29 05:16
What a joke, I can't believe so many people are blindly spitting on cadred. I visit both HLTV and cadred on a regular basis, in all honesty i do prefer HLTV and I absolutely love the video highlights they do. However I think people should read both sides of the story before they start saying 'rararara cadred is killing cs:go'. cadred.org/News/Article/188212/ As a visitor of both sites it's hard to know who to fully trust and believe, however I think this is an important quote from the cadred article; "Unfortunately the decision to try and make this appear to be a political situation or about site rivalries by going public shows that we were right to be apprehensive about even discussing the matter. It smacks of the actions of someone who believe they should always get their own way and when they don't they resort to attacking the people supposedly denying them it. It is a situation that may well have been avoided had the channels of communication been more open and friendly but the reasons they aren't extends both ways." I wouldn't be surprised if cadred had a conflict of interest and that this was convenient for them but would you believe the earth was flat just because HLTV told you so?
2012-11-29 09:45
2 replies
probably read cadred's side articles and comments only
2012-11-29 09:55
This was a shit move by heaven media to promote Cadred . Obviously more ppl like and follow news on hltv.org. This will only hurt ppl who want to get quality news and footage from the tourney, because cadred is not upto hltv's level honestly. Thats a fact.
2012-12-10 20:56
Sorry, but.. You don't seem like a person that would teach someone respect "scooby1234".
2012-11-29 19:55
lol you're so stupid im not saucer
2012-11-30 17:38
Richard lewis -_-
2012-11-28 16:33
8 replies
for me - I don't know what Cadred is and I have no intentions to get to know it as HLTV.org has provided me with the info of CS scene all these years. If HLTV.org doesn't cover the event then there is no event for me as I only come to HLTV.org for streams and hltv IP's and latest news and updates. In the end - I hope Cadred fails miserably after this ignorant and immature move.
2012-11-28 17:59
7 replies
thanks for letting me know, I love u <3
2012-11-28 19:22
exactly, if they don't want us to follow their tournament well we just won't, it's as simple as that.
2012-11-29 00:23
3 replies
you're so strict, and it's very sexy le monsieur, sorry for my french <3. btw why did you changed ur flag?
2012-11-29 08:55
2 replies
cuz I'm actually French, I used to wear an Ukrainian flag only because my nickname reminded of markeloff's but I have no other link with the country
2012-11-29 12:08
1 reply
seems legit!
2012-11-30 07:25
you don't know what cadred is but you can make a statement like that? the choice was made by Mind Sports don't blame Heaven Media. You're an idiot.
2012-11-29 16:27
1 reply
wtf where do you see statement? I said HLTV.org completely satisfies me which means that this cheap try to get some notification from cadreds side is just plain stupid... what the hell is wrong with people who can't read or get the context properly?
2012-11-29 21:11
will you still provide hltv coverage?
2012-11-28 16:33
8 replies
If we are allowed, sure.. :)
2012-11-28 16:34
7 replies
dreamteam? :D
2012-11-28 17:36
2 replies
Yes dreamteam I have good idea of how to make a top 100 team
2012-11-28 17:59
#273
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United States lurppis
can't do dreamteam without server logs, and seeing as they won't let us in the event, there is little chance of us getting the logs.
2012-11-28 19:00
How could they not allow you? Can't you just "steal" the ips?
2012-11-29 00:24
3 replies
And who would you put in such an awkward situation? As far as I see it HLTV.org can not ask anyone to risk their attentandance in exchange of providing IPs.
2012-11-29 01:39
2 replies
I'm not talking about asking someone on site to provide you the ips, but to directly take them from their websites after they updated them
2012-11-29 12:09
1 reply
Well, we will have to see if that is what the 'off-site coverage' leads to.
2012-11-29 23:43
wow...... :(
2012-11-28 16:33
Cadred's touch ... oh my goshhh
2012-11-28 16:33
You shall not pass!!!
2012-11-28 16:34
rofl. monopoly
2012-11-28 16:35
It's their event, ofcourse they wont allow anyone to cover it...bar themself.
2012-11-28 16:35
52 replies
Why naturally! That is also a very good way to get good independent journalism which they are so fond of. :)
2012-11-28 16:36
42 replies
Would u allow to cover event if it was run by hltv?)
2012-11-28 16:41
39 replies
During our DreamHack Winter qualifiers, everyone was allowed to connect to GO TV and stream the matches. Even cadred did it.
2012-11-28 16:43
38 replies
I;m talking about Lan event?)
2012-11-28 16:44
35 replies
#51
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Estonia looodi
there ayn any lans hosted by hltv, lol
2012-11-28 16:47
34 replies
Well im trying to see their point of view, if hltv hosted their own Lan event, would they allow someone there?
2012-11-28 16:50
32 replies
#84
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United States lurppis
why would it be any different? we know we do the best coverage for cs:go so we aren't afraid of competition, it just pushes us to do better, or would, if we had any real competition (which cadred isn't). like luis said, we already did it for our online qualifiers on numerous occasions.
2012-11-28 16:58
31 replies
humble as always huh? :D
2012-11-28 18:13
15 replies
lol :D
2012-11-28 18:29
not humble, he is right, be realistic, hltv is the best by far.. like NiP (eheh) seriously, don't be so blind.
2012-11-28 18:34
13 replies
blind about what kid? i recognize HLTV as the best counter-strike website out there, its just not very nice to hear the people that work in some place saying that they are the best in the world. that should be said by us, the users, not the workers... get it?
2012-11-28 20:09
12 replies
"Being too humble isn't good. In Portugal we say that too much humility is vanity.” CR7 :D
2012-11-28 20:57
11 replies
well, Bendtner said recently that he worths enough to be in the Juventus first team. yeah, u danes can really talk about being humble :) wanna compare ronaldo and bendtner now?
2012-11-28 22:05
9 replies
haha just teasing you :p just saw that you were portuguese and then i remembered what CR said.. no way im gonna defend bendtner :D
2012-11-28 22:27
3 replies
:D btw, i dont think he said that. no ones says that in Portugal :D
2012-11-28 22:33
2 replies
acutally he did say it after he said that he would vote on himself for ballon d'or :)
2012-11-28 23:01
he did said it.
2012-11-29 20:11
Damn I hate Portugal just because of patriotic and retarded fanboys like you. "CR7 SUPERPLAYER AND BEST IN THE WORLD, FOXJ BEST AWP AND SICKEST FRAGGER 2006-2012!!!" Pff, wake up already. You just give bad impression of your country and it's people.
2012-11-29 03:58
4 replies
SHUT THE FUCK UP U FUCKING IDIOT!!! MOST PORTUGUESE HATE CRISTIANO RONALDO, u have absolutely no idea of what ur talking about! fucking moron, where did i say Ronaldo is the best? where did i say that Fox is the best?! fucking moron! i just said Ronaldo is better than Bendtner and i dont think thats even open for debate! dont judge a whole country just because of a bunch of morons that hang around here! i do not Glorify ronaldo, but he's very good playing football, no doubts about it! in the fox and kick matter, i dont give A FUCK about the pt scene, i never did! fox sucks and all the pt players SUCK! get it kid? youtube.com/watch?v=U2pPSAAFSbk Portugal is a country of humble people! here's a proof!
2012-11-29 17:53
3 replies
HUMBLE!! :DD This video is nothing else. I have seen this video before and I can say that it's frikin nonsense. youtube.com/watch?v=aBn7V29jFWs That's nuff said.
2012-11-30 05:06
2 replies
no idiot kid, its about a poor country with poor people that suffering HORRORS! Finland might be one of the best countries to live in, but u sure as hell dont know the meaning of the word RESPECT! respect for a country and a people that are going through a rough patch! dude, my university is older than ur country, what do u mean with that video? what are u trying to accomplsh?
2012-11-30 22:16
1 reply
Dude... what? Do you measure goodness of a country by it's age? Just wtf... And what comes to "respect", we broke EU:s own loan laws when we gave you money. But ofc this means nothing to Portuguese idiots who think they are kings of the world.
2012-12-01 09:39
#489
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United States criimson
PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2012-11-29 09:22
Lurpis HLTV IS NOT THE ONLY WEBSITE that cant cover the event gosh! Realy I like HLTV but u think so good be humble for 1 time plz
2012-11-28 21:58
14 replies
#401
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United States lurppis
there's other ok sites but cadred isn't one of them, and we are still the best in business without a doubt
2012-11-28 22:10
13 replies
haha god you're a muppet.
2012-11-28 23:14
Woah, grow up. Act like a professional. You give a really bad image to HLTV.org.
2012-11-29 04:13
wow
2012-11-29 05:18
Very professional comment. The fact you think that websites are competing with each other shows how much of a cretin you are. Do you see Richard Lewis shouting off how better Cadred is??
2012-11-29 16:31
9 replies
Wow like everytime? Richard Lewis "predicted" 1.6 and hltv's downfall hundreds of times in his so called 'articles' Real journalists argue with facts, not with bold sentences. Lurppis is more of a professional than anyone at cadred will ever be! He makes bold statements all the time and he's not afraid to take responsibility. Yes, sometimes he may seem a little hot-headed, but guess what, that's what the world wants today. People who know what they're capable of and do stuff with efficiency. All I've heard from Lewis is jibber-jabber! You can hate lurppis as much as you want but that doesn't change the fact that he and hltv staff are better journalists than Lewis will/has ever be.
2012-11-29 17:06
2 replies
LMAO
2012-11-29 17:12
1 reply
says the guy who's impressed with HM's wealthiness
2012-11-29 17:18
#576
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United Kingdom dv-_-
Do you see Richard Lewis shouting off how better Cadred is?? Do you realise how much he would get laughed at if he did? If you think that 2 International CS Journalism sites, whose pay is dependant on website hits, aren't in direct competition with each other, then you are beyond help little one.
2012-11-29 17:10
1 reply
many times on comment section
2012-12-12 01:06
#586
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United States lurppis
they do coverage of cs events, we do coverage of cs events. our is a gazillion times better. we win. ps. he used to try before he realized how shitty the almost sinking ship he runs is, now he's busy trying to patch up the holes
2012-11-29 18:14
2 replies
Won't say yours is a gazillion times better. And if you wanna be a role model for anyone other than retarded 13 year old indian boys, fix your fucking attitude for once, it's just sad looking at you, always trying to show just how "good" you are. Even at DHW you talked down to everyone on stream, like you were the fucking shit at csgo, i'd like to see you and your finnish mates play csgo, and fail miserably, because we all know you wouldn't do that well.
2012-11-29 19:58
1 reply
#599
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United States lurppis
i don't care about being a role model for anyone. we actually do proper coverage, so we already have other sites beat there. it really isn't even close. i didn't talk down on everyone, i simply pointed out obvious errors anyone who has played cs for a few years would know.... except everyone who started playing cs:go threw their brains out and went back to 2002 with strats, smarts and money management.
2012-11-29 20:10
lurppis can write whatever he wants in comments section because that's a place where you comment, discuss and share your personal opinion about something so there's no need of acting "professional".
2012-11-30 12:17
well Nix0n co-hosted Dreamhack winter
2012-11-28 16:59
you guys even had one lan event in dk right? allowed to cover by anyone. anyway I think this is pathetic, they also deprive themselves of much needed attention. it's like shooting yourselve in the foot
2012-11-28 19:48
Then this move only shows how miserable the cadred is...
2012-11-29 00:36
Well they want to make their web popular:P its Like 3rd Class news channel wants to be on no 1:P
2012-11-28 17:16
1 reply
+1
2012-11-28 18:34
There is one thing called freedom of press. UEFA also hosts the Champions League, and not only UEFA reporters are allowed inside the stadiums during matches.
2012-11-28 16:36
4 replies
then press charges agains them..
2012-11-28 16:59
Are you simple? The reason hltv didn't get a press pass is because they left it too late as it says literally in the article above.
2012-11-28 18:12
2 replies
he's replying to what #12 (if it isn't my mistake) said, he has not given is opinion.
2012-11-28 18:35
1 reply
no it's not your mistake that was what he was replying to :)
2012-11-28 18:57
why? then they would get more publicity, viewers n more and they didnt need that on the HLTV-Cadred "war"... this is eSport, it still needs development and they are acting like real retards
2012-11-28 16:39
You sir deserve a high 5...in your face...with a chair!
2012-11-28 18:11
1 reply
LOL .. good one ! edit: i laughed so loud at work XD
2012-12-10 21:05
There are other people/communities covering the event, they just scheduled their participation earlier at a more appropriate time than last minute.
2012-11-28 21:44
RICHARD LEWIS. YOU SHALL NOT PASS IN FUTURE TOURNAMENTS. BEWARE.
2012-11-28 16:35
don't worry, you can write the news now. * NiP wins * VG second * Add lots of "1.6 rules!" and "saUcEr" comments. * ESC interview saying they need more practise
2012-11-28 16:35
25 replies
true story :D
2012-11-28 16:45
+1
2012-11-28 16:50
#78
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Sweden Flurpan
Bigest +1 ever made on this site
2012-11-28 16:57
+1
2012-11-28 16:58
lol
2012-11-28 17:02
+++1111
2012-11-28 17:19
wololo
2012-11-28 17:43
+1000000000 ROFL
2012-11-28 17:56
the 'comment of the month' award goes to.. :D
2012-11-28 17:58
hahaha, n1, bro
2012-11-28 18:09
:DDD
2012-11-28 18:11
last new made me rofl, true story
2012-11-28 18:15
:D:D:D:D
2012-11-28 18:19
+ 1000
2012-11-28 18:20
So predictable :D LMAO
2012-11-28 18:31
you made it look so easy, but you're right!
2012-11-28 18:36
made my day
2012-11-28 18:38
News are getting faster and faster...
2012-11-28 18:47
:DD
2012-11-28 20:06
best comment in a long time
2012-11-28 20:52
hahahahaha
2012-11-28 23:48
funny to the brainless
2012-11-29 16:33
1 reply
someone almost took it
2012-12-12 01:07
:D psychic
2012-12-12 01:06
thats pretty pathetic on cadred's behalf. was looking forward to actually knowing the scores on the day
2012-11-28 16:35
13 replies
you can always follow the tournament on cadred. ha-ha :/
2012-11-28 16:37
4 replies
#115
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United Kingdom krucial
+1 don't see what the problem is lol!
2012-11-28 17:09
3 replies
wow...really you don't see what the problem is ? you shouldn't have create an account in first place!
2012-11-28 18:13
2 replies
+1
2012-11-28 18:36
+1
2012-11-28 20:06
And having streams/IPs linked before the games are finished.
2012-11-28 17:06
7 replies
omg +1 noob ticker admins
2012-11-28 18:16
5 replies
Twirl pro ticker admin perm banned :(
2012-11-28 18:18
4 replies
Why was he banned?
2012-11-28 18:57
3 replies
A lot of people get banned eventually, often no legitimate reason. Some truly deserve it, others often don't.
2012-11-28 19:29
After all of my 'admin' priveleges had been removed due to inactivity, there was a thread which Gonzo posted titled "Why I Love Cadred" (you can still find it if you like, although you won't find anything regarding my ban as my comments were deleted) basically dissing 'sLU'. I stated my opinion, which was that sLU is quite funny and I tend not to take anything he says seriously. That comment got deleted (of course), so I posted another saying "i love cadred because your comments get deleted when some big guy gets bored." That resulted in me receiving a ban which I felt was unjust, so in order to still have full access to the website, I created numerous other accounts. For that reason I'm still banned now, over a year later.
2012-11-30 17:58
1 reply
bizzare
2012-11-28 16:35
ahahah unexpected at all from RL
2012-11-28 16:36
wow :/
2012-11-28 16:36
cadred LOL ahah hltv.org >>>> btw. are czechs really that stupid?
2012-11-28 16:36
11 replies
What bad czechs do that you are think they are stupid ? -,-
2012-11-28 16:40
10 replies
czech organizers, don't allow hltv to be in a venue WTF? Only in czech
2012-11-28 16:40
9 replies
Heaven Media is not Czech.
2012-11-28 16:44
get your facts straight before you start insulting ;)
2012-11-28 16:45
3 replies
Just don't pay attention to such users. When digifest organisation deceived all teams with prize money, the hltv users started to blame our country for that.
2012-11-28 21:11
2 replies
Ofc because it was easy subject to trolls to troll about.
2012-12-01 09:46
..............Indian Gaming Carnival
2012-12-01 10:38
An effort to explain to you that Heaven Media isn't actually Czech would be a waste of time and can be compared to trying to explain the general theory of relativity to a monkey. Amazing how you fail each and every day on this page.
2012-11-28 17:28
2 replies
haha. Touché
2012-11-28 17:44
K.O.
2012-11-28 23:57
actually, the media thing, got same owner as cadred or something like that.
2012-11-28 22:17
#22
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United Kingdom dv-_-
It will be broadcast on Cadred.org to like 5 viewers. Let's see how happy any sponsors are when they find out that their product is being broadcast to a much smaller market, because the organisers can't handle some friendly competition :)
2012-11-28 16:36
3 replies
Esports journalism vs Esports journalism how exciting! get a life, the “war” is created by the brainless minds of hltv
2012-11-29 16:34
2 replies
#573
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United Kingdom dv-_-
Oh look, another Cadred user that's registered on HLTV.org to call our community brainless. You truly are the more mature community!
2012-11-29 17:07
1 reply
Esports journalism vs Esports journalism how exciting! i mean cmon im here for esports not for bullshit
2012-12-12 01:10
fu cadred i wish NIP/VG/ESC etc drop the event at last minute xD
2012-11-28 16:39
11 replies
VG wont, cadred is the home of saucers :P NiP and ESC should boycott this, but it wont happen as *the money* speaks. ;)
2012-11-28 16:41
10 replies
they are there for the prizes
2012-11-28 16:44
Cadred WAS the home of saucers. The website is dead right now and since hltv started to cover cs:go.
2012-11-28 16:55
2 replies
lets keep it dead. I for one will boycot any watching of this tournament, as they boycott press
2012-11-28 19:53
1 reply
this
2012-11-28 20:08
#86
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Sweden Flurpan
there is like 5K in that tournament... big moneys !
2012-11-28 16:58
3 replies
$20k
2012-11-28 17:17
#133
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Denmark AndersR
actually it is 20k
2012-11-28 17:21
nice try tho
2012-12-12 01:11
5 hotel non byoc lan 20k cash prize lan host in hotel (no travel etc) . Why they should just boycot that lol
2012-11-28 17:39
They are there to win the event not please you and whatever website you are loyal to. Get over yourself.
2012-11-28 18:02
nice try Cadred for getting more users on your site. I have a message for you: you'll fail miserably. Hltv.org is and always will be the best CS related website, on the news and on the coverages. deal with it.
2012-11-28 16:37
n1 gogogo cadred!!!
2012-11-28 16:37
1 reply
WTF!? O.O
2012-11-28 18:39
Oh buhu!
2012-11-28 16:39
HLTV <3
2012-11-28 16:41
cadred ...
2012-11-28 16:42
The wonderful thing is that they, and more specifically Riri, give lessons to everyone everytime.
2012-11-28 16:44
this is a f*cking joke, these carded guys are like 10 year old kids... be happy with your 1-2k online viewers, idiots. suffer in your privation.
2012-11-28 16:44
2 replies
1-2k? O.o That's a big number.
2012-11-28 16:46
grow up kid.
2012-11-29 16:35
Greedy cadred doesn't even realise that this hurts the GO-scene, this GO tournament will get a lot less exposure (and GO tournaments gets a small amount of exposure to begin with) as cadred has very few readers, so it doesn't only hurt HLTV.org - it hurts the entire CS:GO-scene. I'm not complaining tho, only good in my opinion :-D
2012-11-28 16:47
1 reply
And ironically, that is how Cardred helping 1.6 to be back up top sometime in the future xD
2012-11-28 17:55
LOL, I have never checked cadred webpage :D haha < 3 hltv.org
2012-11-28 16:48
1 reply
I have once :D accidentally
2012-12-01 09:48
Well that's pretty sad.. everyone is going to follow this on HLTV or Vakarm anyway so :)
2012-11-28 16:49
OMG! It´s really stupid.... FUCK ALL STAFF...
2012-11-28 16:49
fuckings stupid
2012-11-28 16:49
Oh my, can't believe I'm actually reading this. Wow.
2012-11-28 16:49
cadred too bad dude ahahaha Richard Lewis afraid your golden egg gets stolen? :|
2012-11-28 16:50
oh my gosh oO why they act like children?
2012-11-28 16:51
we could do an online petition to make cadred and heaven media change their mind, its a shame that hltv wont be allowed to do the coverage.
2012-11-28 16:51
if theyre running the even it makes sense that they want exclusive coverage. plently of other companies do this too (biggest one that comes to mind is the NFL) just accept it as a dick move and move on
2012-11-28 16:51
10 replies
#93
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United States lurppis
everyone is allowed to do coverage of nfl, tv rights is a completely different thing.
2012-11-28 17:00
9 replies
If the NFL was a professional media outlet and happened to host leagues aswell, do you think they would allow others to cover it? Your argument is non-comparable.
2012-11-29 15:39
1 reply
#585
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United States lurppis
it's not my argument, it's saint1's one which i answered to. it doesn't matter how you spin it, without us significantly less people will find out about the tourney, see pictures etc, and that is bad for heaven media or whatever the company is called, and the event's sponsors. not the first bad decision made in esports due to personal issues, and won't be the last.
2012-11-29 18:12
i am obviously referring to the tv rights to compare it to streaming. hltv is more than welcome to post news stories about who won after the event/games have happened just like everyone else is
2012-11-30 14:40
6 replies
#647
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United States lurppis
we didn't ask to stream, we asked to provide coverage on-site, just like every news paper, tv channel etc can do at the games
2012-11-30 17:36
5 replies
thats where you're wrong. the nfl signs exclusivity contracts with networks. if another network wants to come in and cover the game while its going on they arent allowed to. that includes tv, radio, and newspapers. just like everyone else hltv is allowed to cover the games after they have occured
2012-11-30 17:41
4 replies
#650
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United States lurppis
you can get press passes via teams to games still, just not through nfl. obviously in esports that would be through heaven media, since teams don't have that right ^^
2012-11-30 17:47
#651
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United States lurppis
i should add that teams do not give press passes to people they don't like though, e.g. scott raab didn't get press passes from the heat, so that matches up nicely with gonzo ^^
2012-11-30 17:53
2 replies
raab called the heat's star player a whore so i doubt its just a "we dont like him so he doesnt get a press badge situation" heaven media never said to hltv that they cant cover the event at all. they still can but not live from the floor. i really think its a position of two misunderstandings exacerbated by immature children on both forums.
2012-11-30 18:00
1 reply
#654
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United States lurppis
they said we can't cover the event on-site and made up a stupid excuse for it. i also heard from reliable sources that it's half because of my tweet's to gonzo, which is amazing because it tells me that shit actually bothers him LOL at least he finally figured the way he can do best on-site coverage of an event - invite no one else. then again, he'll probably get too drunk and sleep in and not show up a day, again.
2012-11-30 18:24
just, wow..
2012-11-28 16:52
I swear to God, I won't watch any match arranged by Cadred. Let them rot in hell and die with <10 viewers. It's ironic that I got a lecture yesterday from a professor and he said "Never underestimate an idiot." This statement holds true for every single part of a man called Richard Lewis. He's literally trying to destroy eSports. I hope no other event would hire this idiot ever again. Yes, I guess now he's enjoying every single attention people are giving him. People, if you want to express your anger, don't visit Cadred and curse him on his website, just do it here on HLTV.
2012-11-28 16:52
15 replies
who cares which site coverages it? :D
2012-11-28 16:54
12 replies
I do. I hate every single part of Cadred.
2012-11-28 16:56
2 replies
is desingn of cadred shit or what? :o
2012-11-28 16:56
1 reply
Yes, it's shit and the man running the website is shitting himself right now.
2012-11-28 17:06
That's not the point... the point is with an event as big as this, the only way to further eSports is to have many media outlets cover an event. Like someone mentioned above, when UEFA hosts their events they don't close the door to other journalists not under the UEFA brand. Flushing out other media outlets will not help eSports grow in any shape or form. This is complete bullocks, and I'd love to hear something more than 'there's no space' from Richard Lewis in some sort of official statement.
2012-11-28 17:01
8 replies
Exactly, it's a "five-star Corinthia hotel'. Space issues, my ass. It's literally the worst excuse ever came out of that fat pig mouth.
2012-11-28 17:05
3 replies
LoL tournament cancelled, suddenly run out of space. Sounds about right?
2012-11-28 18:10
2 replies
wtf don't you work for them?
2012-11-28 18:58
1 reply
I got "fired" before dreamhack for casting a game with rizc. wcyd
2012-11-28 19:36
Get off your spastic seat. Esports is MOBA titles now, and those are the only things which will further it. The only thing stopping the FPS scene rising is the morons like you and the 98% of the rest of the cs scene who act like children and spit hate for anything new/different. Bye.
2012-11-29 15:42
3 replies
"The only thing stopping the FPS scene rising is the morons like you and the 98% of the rest of the cs scene who act like children and spit hate for anything new/different." "Get off your spastic seat." You're so superior
2012-11-29 18:49
2 replies
Learn. To. Read.
2012-11-29 20:39
1 reply
So does someone actually know if guys from Cadred.org have anything to do with this?
2012-11-28 16:58
drama baby drama
2012-11-28 16:59
better luck next time hltv.org =(
2012-11-28 16:52
#69
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Finland joona
crapred.org
2012-11-28 16:53
2 replies
More like deaded.org
2012-11-28 17:00
1 reply
mind giving me the cadred website address? all of my browser blocked the connection to google when I type "cadred" on google search bar.
2012-11-28 20:12
#70
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World ashhh
lmao pathetic
2012-11-28 16:54
I can't even fathom logical reasoning why you'd deny HLTV.org entry to the event... I wonder if they know how to set up GOTV relays.
2012-11-28 16:55
7 replies
you know how it works out there ! :d
2012-11-28 17:00
6 replies
huh?
2012-11-28 17:03
5 replies
aren't you the r0b1 fired of cadred because you casted with esplanet ? if yes you know that there is madness there §
2012-11-28 17:07
4 replies
yeah that's me haha. Madness indeed.
2012-11-28 17:09
3 replies
It sounds like something is missing from that story/picture. Can you elaborate on the reasoning?
2012-11-28 20:58
2 replies
Well imagine: Richard Lewis is all about forwarding cadred as the cs hub, hltv and esplanet are both considered rivals in his eyes and are threats who should be avoided and rejected, rather than combining to create better coverage. So the long and short of it: I was removed from their staff for casting a game with rizc. Combined with RL's hatred of rizc after the whole CyberGamer invite casting debacle (something equally mad if you don't know what happened there) it was over for me really.
2012-11-28 21:06
1 reply
Jesus. And thanks for elaborating. And no, I do not knwo what happened there either :).
2012-11-28 21:31
Typical behaviour from that gremlin, as expected.
2012-11-28 16:56
hope the demos will at least be available here...why is there no demos at all....there's like 3 events going on, so man matches played, but still no demos added... :(
2012-11-28 16:57
5 replies
+1 SLTV demos man...
2012-11-28 17:51
I think events fail to force the teams to upload the gotv demos. SLTV did it at the first matchday but there isn't any demo available for the last 3 matchdays...
2012-11-28 18:12
#274
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United States lurppis
you need help from the server owners to get gotv demos, and it's proving to be very difficult for these online leagues.
2012-11-28 19:02
2 replies
yeah,the last demo we could download is nip vs vg on November 25
2012-11-28 22:57
1 reply
#430
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United States lurppis
no team will upload a demo of them playing if admins dont force them, gotv system is just terrible. no one wants to give their strats away for no reason when there are no penalties.
2012-11-28 23:14
#80
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Italy cele87
shitcadred.org worst site and people in the internet, im laughing because they need to make this action for "improving" players in that comunity which is the worst comunity i ever seen. Btw hltv.org is too better than shitcadred.org
2012-11-28 16:57
i've read some comments here on hltv.org regarding cadred, but i was never curious enough to check it out. i get all the news i need here, on hltv.
2012-11-28 16:58
Richard lewis is incredibly buthurt because of the sAucers leaving cadred for HLTV, and because HLTV dominates the CS world. Very unprofessional action from those guys, they are really really low. Its obvious they are very afraid of HLTV. Face the facts Hewis. The staffs from HLTV are WAY WAY more competent than you. There is no comparison. In HLTV people have the fastest reports, best interviews, best stream system, best demo archive, best forum activity, dreamteam with nice prizes, giveaways, the best stattistic system, blog system, etc etc and many more. Face the facts fat Hewis, HLTV crew is just WAY more competent than you, and thats the reason you are such an afraid butthurt old man, acting as a dick most of the time. By the way, you already lost this war, HLTV is the home of CSGO, evdn your sAucers are more active in HLTV than in cadred. Thats evidence for you. Btw, cadred is dead, vey low activity, very boring and amature place. Bye.
2012-11-28 16:58
7 replies
Youre right on most parts, HLTV have alot of better features than Cadred. However, interviews, and news articles in general are WAYYY better from Cadred. Seriously, HLTV dont come close when it comes down to general journalism.
2012-11-28 18:33
5 replies
Would have to agree. Articles and interviews are better on cadred but a lot of things is also a lot better on this site.
2012-11-28 21:01
Hardly. Richard's column, Gonorea or whatever, is usually a good read, but that's it for what articles go. The other articles I've read are rarely worth the time reading. The same goes for interviews: his StarCraft 2 interviews are, so I've heard, very good. MIRAA and lurppis' interviews are way above what Cadred.org usually puts out, though.
2012-11-28 23:23
3 replies
Written interviews, yes, video interviews, no :)
2012-12-01 10:27
2 replies
I've got $10 saying that'll all change when MIRAA's sorted out with the camera etc. :)
2012-12-01 11:54
1 reply
Lets make that a deal. If his video-coverage is on par or better i'm gonna give you a beer or two if you ever get to denmark ;)
2012-12-02 02:04
+1
2012-11-29 04:02
Just boycott Cadred... don't follow this LAN at all, make it seem like it never happened.
2012-11-28 16:58
4 replies
wouldn't be a good idea as their "role" is to cover event.
2012-11-28 17:00
2 replies
You can't just disallow other media outlets from covering an event because your partners host it. That's extremely unprofessional, and the only way HLTV.org users can hurt the event is by not tuning in to watch it and not going on cadred to see results. They would think twice about doing that ever again.
2012-11-28 17:05
no. They just have to cover this event like others, as if it will be more difficult due to the fact they won't be able to make interview durign the event or to get information faster than other website. But not covering the event is giving to cadred all people wanna have informations about the tournament progress, and this is what Richard Lewis want not making HLTV able to entry into Mind Sports. Just one thing; Richard Lewis, please /surrender.
2012-11-28 17:08
+10000000 Agree completly
2012-11-28 17:14
" the only exception being Cadred.org, which is part of the Heaven Media Group and has been announcing on its website for the past few days that it will be doing exclusive coverage of the tournament. " And there it is, pretty disgusting shutting out the #1 source for CS news and lying about it. HLTV could've contacted them a year in advance and they still would've said no.
2012-11-28 17:01
2 replies
Exactly. Why was HLTV.org told the venue was full, when it seems the real reason was that Cadred was given exclusive access?
2012-11-28 23:45
That might have been a wrong choice of words. It's easy to get confused between 'extensive' and 'exclusive'. However, if the usage of that word was intentional, Richard Lewis' words hold no water.
2012-11-29 16:58
So pathetic....... Anyway, HLTV.org is way more active then caddead, oh sorry i mean cadred.
2012-11-28 17:02
omfg what the fuck is this? question is how many viewers they will get. i will for sure not watch.
2012-11-28 17:04
pathetic move
2012-11-28 17:04
And when they are called unprofessionals, they say we dont know what professionalism means.... PLEASE RICHARD HEWIS! TELL ME WHAT PROFESSIONALISM MEANS! TKX.
2012-11-28 17:07
Well thank you, Richard Lewis.
2012-11-28 17:08
is this legal? there is no law for "press rights" our something? pitiful...
2012-11-28 17:08
4 replies
They haven't denied them access because it's HLTV.org (in the eyes of the law anyway) so there's no legal involvement, unless you can take someone to court for "not having enough space"
2012-11-28 17:11
2 replies
dont be so naive!!!"...the only exception being Cadred.org, which is part of the Heaven Media Group and has been announcing on its website for the past few days that it will be doing exclusive coverage of the tournament."
2012-11-28 17:41
1 reply
I'm not being naive, I'm simply stating why there won't be any legal involvement. I do agree it's ridiculous that they're denying the main CS:GO coverage site access to the event because of one man's quest to thrust his website to the top of the pile by closing doors to anyone else at every opportunity
2012-11-28 17:52
Don't know if there is laws prohibiting it, but staff is able to refuse someone to entry, sure.
2012-11-28 17:11
ahhh richard :D
2012-11-28 17:08
Denied entry... Further down, hosted by Heaven Media this weekend. I laughed :D
2012-11-28 17:11
1 reply
long time no see
2012-11-28 22:06
Been on Cadred for years, but this is fucking disgraceful ;s. Only hurting his own event.
2012-11-28 17:12
1 reply
Same goes for me. This is not a good thing for them in any way. Have read his (Richards) response and there is still no explanation for it.
2012-11-28 21:07
I think the worst event of the year
2012-11-28 17:12
what a bunch of fucking scumbags
2012-11-28 17:13
Jesus Christ...
2012-11-28 17:14
corrupt tournament ?
2012-11-28 17:16
watch streams and don't whine
2012-11-28 17:16
#128
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Argentina plix10
it's a shame really :(
2012-11-28 17:17
we hated cadred then not that much, now we hate it again and even more than the first time. gg cadred hahaha thats not how you get people on your side :D
2012-11-28 17:18
I am emailing this newspost to richard lewis boses at heaven media. Richard lewis is the most pathetic guy in esports these days, pretty sure heaven media wouldnt do this shit if it wasnt for lewis influence. Cant they see that lewis is killing his own site? They get less ans less activity every day, nobody wants to be a part of that scambag site, because of shits like this one.
2012-11-28 17:19
1 reply
dribble
2012-11-29 16:39
Hmkay, I won't be watching unfortanetely then. I'll just follow scores and such posted here on HLTV.org and unofficial streams.
2012-11-28 17:22
1 reply
+1
2012-11-29 18:05
#135
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Taiwan SCVready
they are just so stupid you guys have done great jobs so far keep the great work!
2012-11-28 17:22
FLOP tournament ...
2012-11-28 17:23
what a joke. :)
2012-11-28 17:23
Stupid move frome Cadred, I guess vakarm, fragbite and all the other website are the same matter. "how to kill an great event and made the wall community hating EsportEaven"
2012-11-28 17:24
This is a really stupid move
2012-11-28 17:24
Richard Lewis, TWAT.
2012-11-28 17:24
what i love is, hes always going on about "journalism" and how "moral" his journalism is... and then does shit like this :D. Oh btw they are banned from I-series, so hopefully I-series can get a few more pennies together and put up a huge fund for next itme.
2012-11-28 17:26
5 replies
Do you know what that was about? I heard he attacked someone in the press area.
2012-11-28 17:46
3 replies
He didn't attack anyone, it was a verbal tit for tat essentially.
2012-11-28 18:48
think someone asked him to move whilst he was doing an interview, and he would have told them to fuck off or something like that.
2012-11-28 20:05
1 reply
He is a fucking cunt beyond reckoning. I should have stomped him out when I had the chance.
2012-11-29 02:50
haha, why did they get banned?
2012-11-28 18:15
Hilarious.
2012-11-28 17:35
I used to news write for Cadred.org, and I can say that they use HLTV.org as a basis for their news. I believe that this a complete non-sense, and I hope they will let you in.
2012-11-28 17:35
So, you finnaly got to my post... Yes, i am talking to you richard lewis. Thats how pretictable you are, we all know you visit HLTV daily, we all know how jelly and butthurt you are. Think about it while you are reading my post. Bye.
2012-11-28 17:35
1 reply
LOL
2012-11-28 23:29
this is pretty stupid. i am a journalist and i know you can't simply ask for acreditations when you want. stop whining and do it right. as you said, after you've seen what teams will go to prague, you wanted to :go too. this is totally emarasing. ok, you will say that you dont have the money to go to all tournaments and you have to wait to see what teams will go. ok, start whining then, please. this is a lame news. off the record, i don't know if cadred will go there and i don't care. as long as they asked for acreditation at the right time, good for them. i used their site only once to swear some morons. now they are here and i can do it here. what i want to say is that i spit on cadred saucers and i am/never was one of them (if some intend to belive that).
2012-11-28 17:39
10 replies
ok cadred fanboy
2012-11-28 17:43
3 replies
you have to be really stupid to say this. i use this site since 2007. this site only. i have 3-4 users (because of bans recieved for flamng polish and indian guys). the oldest one is from 2008 or so. htym <3 i spit on sk htym <3 i spit on cs:go players htym <3 i spit on indinas. all of them are my nicknames. 2 are still banned i think :D
2012-11-28 17:57
2 replies
very deserved ban imo
2012-11-28 17:58
Nice life story
2012-11-28 18:03
well dumbass, you are also a gypsy by the looks of your flags. And gypsy profession doesn´t really count as real professions in the rest of the world.
2012-11-29 02:52
5 replies
Why the hell do you call a romanian a gypsy? Racist piece of crap. I bet his ass is a lot cleaner than your mouth, yeah that meaning. Learn to respect people douche.
2012-11-29 18:10
4 replies
#683
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Canada xb0y
hltv.org/news/9632-hltvorg-denied-entry-.. When your fellow countryman can't respect others, don't even bother correcting others.
2012-12-04 10:26
3 replies
I find offensive what that c0bb said. To be more exact a gypsy. Got it xb0y? That romanian dude didn't say something like "indians eat only garbage" or whatsoever. He had an username "spit on indians". Of course it is offensive for you too, because he hates indians for his reasons, maybe. But after all he did not say something like "indians, your flag should be a garbage slum because i saw a movie reflecting your wealth care". And of course i had some expectations from a danish citizen, but you know...humans are humans. Now do you get why i was like that?
2012-12-04 10:40
2 replies
#689
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Canada xb0y
A person who behaves bad to someone, gets bad response in return. This is my point. And that dude abused Indians many items, he's here from past 1 year and keep on trash talking about India and Indians. Do you really think he'll put "<3 spit on indians" on his nickname and won't trash talk about them?
2012-12-04 11:12
1 reply
Mhm. I can see now that both of us have different points of view, so continuing on this topic is worthless, like 1.6>go or go>1.6. So, my honest opinion is that we should stop arguing about this racist topic, that's my view. Yeah, i can see that someone who does bad gets bad, rob and then jail time. But instead of doing this we should ignore idiots and leave them to their low iq level. I got your point xb0y. Sincerely i do not follow racist guys, but on the other hand i follow cs news. About the trash talk of that guy, yes i do believe that, you can "protest about something/someone" by only a few words, e.g. in a name. But again, this is just my opinion. Anyway, have a nice day dude.
2012-12-04 12:52
So nice to see people are realising what Richard Lewis is like, the lies and the crap he has made up about me and others in the past alone hopefully can make people see what hes like now :DDDDDDDDDDD ps: youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde..
2012-11-28 17:39
8 replies
Yeah, looks like you were right the entire time. If i remember correctly, this richard dick hewis cunt was caught cheating when he used to play css, is that correct? Looks like this guy is a scumbag from feet to head.
2012-11-28 17:47
1 reply
Yes, caught cheating on several occasions yet told everyone I was lying and that I made it up etc, yet I had no reason to lie, and It was the principle of the matter but the majority believed him because he writes crap articles.
2012-11-28 19:05
+1 karma is a bitch
2012-11-28 18:13
You are right, but when it comes down to it. You are not really in a position to point fingers at anyone, when you yourself are one of the most selfproclaiming disrespectfull little cunts I have ever encountered in my life. Gonz and you are VERY much alike. You both think that you are better than others, so you are just as worthless as he is.
2012-11-29 03:04
4 replies
kasper, i even let you speak to my grandma once
2012-11-29 03:41
haha u are insane c0b. lewis and ritch are far alike imo. but ritch has massive ego, i dont blame him tho. he has been on broadcasting telly son, thousands seen him play a useless game dont discredit him man, instead u should see ritch on the bright side. atleast hes somebody and not someone, the result is what defines people. not how mannered they are. and infact, hes better than most users here on hltv just that he proclaims himself a bit way too much sometimes. working with people with big ego is something you'll have to learn to accept cause ritch will never change his attitude towards u or any of u gamers unless u know him personally.
2012-11-30 11:35
2 replies
None of the things you mention, is the reason why I dont like him. I have been friends with him for quite a while.
2012-12-03 22:12
1 reply
it surprizes me how he can allow you to bad mouth him like that in public. and that shit would come from a fmr teammate.. get some respect man
2012-12-04 08:49
one more thing. find a player that goes there and you know him for some time. ask him for some pictures (could made so easy with a smartphone). pay him some $ to ask some questions there and that's it. cheaper than go there anyway.
2012-11-28 17:41
5 replies
yeah very professional. That is not how Hltv.org does things you know.
2012-11-28 17:45
4 replies
it really does. zounds of threads with news made by users got deleted by them to create top news :).
2012-11-28 17:54
3 replies
to mantain the order of the site
2012-11-28 17:56
2 replies
nope. some of the news were pretty strong and at least 24h old. the so called hltv.org jounalists didn't had them on the site and threads were created for chat. also, those threads were deleted and news were made. this so called journalists think they can get acreditations at anytime.
2012-11-28 18:00
1 reply
again, to mantain the order of the site
2012-11-28 18:01
I'd love to know why you can't attend. Everyone writing that Cadred are butthurt are insane because they don't pull the strings at Heaven Media. May just be that the big guys upstairs want their site to have exclusive coverage (which is a bad move for the CSGO community as a whole who they seem to say they are so fond of). Surely this is no reason to not do dreamteam though and at least present online coverage? they can't stop you from having an opinion on a public event...
2012-11-28 17:43
5 replies
We will do online coverage (as written in the final paragraph). As for DreamTeam, that will not be possible as far as I know, because we would need the server logs.
2012-11-28 17:45
Yeah, naive people like yourself would want to believe that richard lewis wasnt an influence on the decision. People with brains no better than this.
2012-11-28 17:45
3 replies
Not you then
2012-11-28 18:01
It's clear that heaven media want their coverage website (cadred) to hold the rights to event coverage... they expect it to give their website a boost in visitors. So from a business point of view it makes sense. For the community however it sucks.
2012-11-28 18:31
1 reply
From a business and strategic point of view it does not make any sense. The goal of the event should be to promote Sponsors, Heaven Media and Cadred.org as most a possible. Correct? Firstly the sponsors does not get the most exposure by limiting the coverage. Next Heaven Media is portraited badly and does not produce the desired goodwill as a result of this. Lastly, almost the same thing goes for cadred. What they hold most dear is users, unique visitors and activity to maintain this. The results of doing this is the complete opposite. Yes you get exclusive coverage on your own event.
2012-11-28 21:22
And what do u get from dis Richard Lewis? Cadred will still remain dead!
2012-11-28 17:45
It's not Richard Lewis not allowing, its guys above him wanting exclusive coverage)
2012-11-28 17:45
#170
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
If they want to be kids, let's be kids and BOYCOTT their event. I would love to see how they explain to their 20 man strong community that they have gone bankrupt because they tried to fuck over HLTV.org which resulted in their tournament flopping. Alternatively, get Nix0n to sub for one of the DK teams again and do some undercover journalism!
2012-11-28 17:47
5 replies
im pretty sure heaven media could buy HLTV if they wanted to.
2012-11-28 17:49
4 replies
#200
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
Doubt they have cash to throw away on gaming tournaments that get no views though. And for a media company, this is a pretty stupid move on their behalf. You can't publically challenge the no1 coverage site when you are so far behind.
2012-11-28 18:09
2 replies
How do you know a sponsor didnt give them 20,000 to hold a LAN event? You don't. Heaven media owns cadred along with 7+ other websites, stop jumping to conclusion because they have obviously have some money.
2012-11-28 18:24
1 reply
#270
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
Yeah a sponsor might have, but I doubt they would be happy that cadred have cut out a large portion of the community, which usually results in unpaid prize money. Also, just cause they own 7+ websites doesn't mean they are filthy rich lol. Anyway, don't get upset about it, just sharing my thoughts, fuck me.
2012-11-28 18:57
#684
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Canada xb0y
They can buy HLTVorg but cannot arrange a room in a hotel for them to cover the event. Letting a miniature website covering the event instead of World#1 CS Coverage website. Sounds like a very good plan. And check this too: hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=234501#r374.. Proves how retarded Lewis actually is.
2012-12-04 10:34
fs cadred..... XD
2012-11-28 17:48
Really bad decision by Heaven media.Might be due to vested interests of Cadred.
2012-11-28 17:49
I am a cadred reader (one of the few) but after this stupid move, i will no longer visit that website. I am 100% sure richard lewis had influence on this decision, sincd he is always trashtalking HLTV.org in his site. From now on, i will only visit HLTV.org for CS news, and i really believe thar richard lewis killed cadred.
2012-11-28 17:53
1 reply
Yep, that's why your last few posts have all been slating cadred. gg retard.
2012-11-28 18:09
ridicolous.
2012-11-28 17:56
What the fuck is this? I'm a regular Cadred user and this is just such a retarded move by Heaven Media... What a way to expose CS:GO. I'm sure HLTV will still update the scores/stats quicker than them even though they are hosting it..
2012-11-28 17:58
1 reply
haha so true
2012-11-28 18:11
I know that feel bro, hltv.org. We will be always be with you.
2012-11-28 17:59
Just sneak in, they wont notice, they're gonna be too drunk from that delicious czech beer.
2012-11-28 18:04
Just plain fucking pathetic...
2012-11-28 18:05
Cool, now I don't have any reason not to miss WCG.
2012-11-28 18:06
owned gg cu
2012-11-28 18:07
cadred.org/Forums/Thread/188203/ Dude actually has a point
2012-11-28 18:09
11 replies
no he doesn't! hltv never did anything to harm cadred! Feel free to go to cadred and never return
2012-11-28 18:14
4 replies
So then this news article is what?
2012-11-28 18:18
1 reply
wtf? this article is a consequence of what cadred did to hltv! And it was Lewis that flamed hltv.org throughout the years and not vice-verca! As I said, feel free to go back and never return!
2012-11-29 00:29
1 reply
You don't seem to get my point. Get over the bullshit story he wrote there! He's blaming on the coverage of the event ? huh? HLTV have never done anything different for any other event, than what they've done for this one.
2012-11-29 17:14
He certainly does not. We did not expect to get a room at the hotel, we just wanted a press accreditation, or rather a guarantee that MIRAA would be allowed to enter the venue and do his job. But apparently there is no space for one more guy there, all the desks, chairs, power sockets and internet ports are taken, so go figure.
2012-11-28 18:17
1 reply
Such a conspiracy
2012-11-28 18:24
"We were also told they are unable to hand out more press accreditations at this time, since we are "too close to the event." Ok we can't book a room, but what about getting press accreditation and maybe, you know, sleep somewhere else ?
2012-11-28 18:19
3 replies
They were told they were unable to get a press accreditation - so your solution is to get a press accreditation? Did you even read what you quoted?
2012-11-28 20:52
2 replies
Do you even know what i am referring to ? Obviously you didn't see the topic linked. Don't try to play somebody you are not. You are just a retard.
2012-11-28 21:12
1 reply
+1
2012-11-28 21:16
well anything to get some traffic to their site
2012-11-28 18:12
#213
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Finland coswell
I seriously hope HLTV wont get permission to cover it. HLTV should just not bother. Also dont put up the streams in the stream list for this tournament. Would be funny seeing how many viewers its gonna get without HLTV.org. :DD
2012-11-28 18:13
5 replies
#235
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United States lurppis
it would indeed be hilarious but i think beating cadred in coverage for their own event they didn't allow us in at will be even funnier :)
2012-11-28 18:27
4 replies
I don't think so, as it's pretty expected that you'll beat them in coverage no matter what as you always has, and always will do.
2012-11-28 18:31
#254
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Finland coswell
Well if you will really cover it, be sure to make good interviews by phone/skype-video-chat or something like that.. Just hilarious to cover an event better than the guys who are there. Try to find some fan who is going there and give him couple of months VIP HLTV for some live coverage for some videos of the event.. :D In short.. Go 150% or 0% coverage..
2012-11-28 18:43
1 reply
THIS!
2012-11-29 20:04
you truly are 7 shades of moron aren't you.
2012-11-29 12:19
What a pathetic move...
2012-11-28 18:14
Hate those idiots
2012-11-28 18:15
Richard "asshole" Lewis! Nice try dude! Too bad it's not gonna work! 1.6 community hating on CS:GO went as far as having only 10k viewers...now you can imagine what's gonna happen with your tournament lol
2012-11-28 18:15
WTF
2012-11-28 18:16
Weird decision by Heaven Media, I get that having exclusive coverage of the tournament is something that is sought after, but leaving out the biggest community site for the game doesn't make much sense - hopefully the tournament won't suffer too much from it, people should still have the same interest to watch the games regardless of who's covering it.
2012-11-28 18:21
:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
2012-11-28 18:23
This has Richard Lewis written all over it.
2012-11-28 18:25
It's funny how this entire thread is filled with angry little kids. Heaven media != Cadred/Richard Lewis Heaven media owns both. If you are hosting an event and you happen to be a company which specialises in journalism/e-sports, Then it makes sense they would try and keep it exclusive to themselves. Why the hell would you want to be competed with in something you had started? It would make no business sense. tldr You are all spastic apes.
2012-11-28 18:29
11 replies
So there is actually someone with a brain here.
2012-11-28 18:55
+1
2012-11-28 18:57
plus gwan
2012-11-28 19:19
Actually what would make sense would be to open the event to as much publicity as possible and run a great event. All this promotes is bias journalism.
2012-11-28 19:37
2012-11-28 20:24
3 replies
That's fine. But Heaven Media is a esports media focused company. UEFA is not a journalism association that happens to have a football league. Heaven media is a journalism association focusing on esports who is creating an esports tournament.
2012-11-28 21:08
2 replies
nice try
2012-11-28 21:41
1 reply
#20 is not a good comparison...
2012-11-28 21:56
This is a response I gave further up and since you sound like someone with and IQ above average in here - feel free to discuss. From a business and strategic point of view it does not make any sense. The goal of the event should be to promote Sponsors, Heaven Media and Cadred.org as most a possible. Correct? Firstly the sponsors does not get the most exposure by limiting the coverage. Next Heaven Media is portraited badly and does not produce the desired goodwill as a result of this. Lastly, almost the same thing goes for cadred. What they hold most dear is users, unique visitors and activity to maintain this. The results of doing this is the complete opposite as a result of lacking goodwill from the community.
2012-11-28 21:27
This is all well and good, but HLTV.org was told the venue was full, not "Cadred has exclusive access". Lying just seems a little unprofessional.
2012-11-28 23:49
if you want to watch the event live, then this "media buy-out stunt" performed by heaven media is not beneficial for yourself. You won't be able to watch quality streams, etc. -it might make sense to buy out and force a one sided biased media to profit, but it doesn't work like that to profit, and it certainly does not give a good reputation in the long run. -one sided biased bought out media doesn't work (is not justifiable for truth/ true business) for any type of media, be it esports or politics. -as an example, let's watch the healthy relationship with esea and hltv in the coming year europe vs america, where all reporters are welcome.
2012-11-29 07:46
hltv.org>cadred
2012-11-28 18:41
tbh cadred makes the best interviews out there. thats the only thing u guys are lacking atm. and maybe something like richard lewis' blog would be cool here
2012-11-28 18:41
what a shame...
2012-11-28 18:41
cadred is a fucking joke anyway
2012-11-28 18:43
lol
2012-11-28 18:47
free market!
2012-11-28 18:48
#261
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Bulgaria J4R
Doesn't really matter... Won't make much of a difference... HLTV.org will still be on top...
2012-11-28 18:50
from the 'facts' id say its hltvs fault for leaving it too late. but heaven media are really shit, they killed enemydown league among other things
2012-11-28 18:51
22 replies
Well sure, but there is no way we'll promise to attend an event with no single big team signed, we are not made of money.. We are often this late, and some events even ask us if we want to come..
2012-11-28 18:58
21 replies
I'm curious if you guys are actually surprised you don't get access after lurpiss has said on twitter that he hopes Richard Lewis dies of a heart attack asap? If so, rofl. (Ooh and p.s. I do not like Gonzo, think he's an immature prick who thinks he's some godly dictator over on cadred)
2012-11-28 19:23
17 replies
ye he did, he wished that richard would get another heart attack
2012-11-28 19:37
What lurppis does on his twitter is his business..
2012-11-28 21:29
15 replies
Still reflects on your website, whether you like it or not.
2012-11-28 21:41
4 replies
Well, if every thing said on the internet by any of our crew reflects on my website, then so be it, they, and me included, will say a lot of stupid stuff now and then..
2012-11-28 21:44
you kill a police and your dad must be sentenced to death nice logic bro, change my life again
2012-11-28 23:52
2 replies
We were talking about reputation young student. Your family's reputation would be damaged if you'd kill a person. Now please don't comment again before your parents fed you again, makes you look even dumber.
2012-11-29 10:28
1 reply
Why would you even bother about the reputation side. "Your family's reputation would be damaged if you'd kill a person." nope, it depends on where a person's thinking go, this is very personal case. "Now please don't comment again before your parents fed you again, makes you look even dumber." nice argument bro, looks so cool =D change my life once again
2012-11-29 10:40
Not really. Like if some reporter would write on twitter that he hopes that CEO of some other newschannel dies of a heart attack it would just be "his business"?
2012-11-28 22:22
8 replies
Would that reporter from his personal twitter account be a spokesman for the newschannel which has a twitter account on its own?
2012-11-29 01:07
7 replies
Don't we all know this is eSports, which is immature as hell? And in the real world, if the spokesmen would start racist blur or hatred towards another company, he'll most likely be shut up or fired.
2012-11-29 10:26
6 replies
lurppis is too harsh to act like that tbh, what about Lewis? I would say Wolf in sheep.
2012-11-29 10:52
2 replies
Lewis is an idiot, I'm the first to agree. Keep in mind though that mind sports is way more than e-sports, e-sports is just a little part of it: praguemindsportsfestival.com
2012-11-29 10:55
1 reply
okay
2012-11-29 10:57
But, as I tried to explain with my comment, lurppis' twitter is not the official HLTV.org account but his private one.
2012-11-29 23:40
2 replies
Which I understood, but it affects the relations between the two sites anyway.
2012-11-30 06:40
1 reply
As long as either of the sites thinks it does. A personal opinion is limited to the user who expresses it but, as already stated, does not speak for the whole site nor its management.
2012-12-01 01:13
the real world doesn't quite work like that though
2012-11-29 05:37
No it's not your fault you have limited funds, but likewise there is no fault on the part of cadred in the slightest here. And I believe they also said they would ask you in future, but in this case they were operating on the basis that you had no interest in the slightest as you had expressed no interest (not even potential interest) in the slightest. Maybe if you had expressed any interest whatsoever the situation would be different, even as little as mentioning the fact that you have limited funds but would it be possible for you to let them know closer to the date and be a possible late addition. Did you do that?
2012-11-28 22:33
2 replies
Uhm, we have posted about all teams who are attending, I do not know how much more attention we could have given it..
2012-11-28 22:51
1 reply
As I said, having a quick word with cadred or a member of their staff would be one quick and simple way. Anyway nobody is at fault here so we should just crack on with things.
2012-11-29 10:00
I come from Source, but during the previous GO events I have exclusively used hltv.org due to the superior and much more quickly updated coverage of events. Disappointed that this has happened, surely it is in everyone's best interest to have as much coverage possible at every event in order to grow the game?
2012-11-28 18:56
2 replies
Re-upload Fragville!!!
2012-11-28 19:54
1 reply
LOL just saw this, I will actually do that for you this week! :)
2012-12-08 15:22
How pathetic of Richard Lewis, really ....
2012-11-28 18:57
3 replies
2 replies
Of all people you reply me? :)
2012-11-29 17:09
Nixon, Miraa and whoever else was present, at dream hack. You guys did a fantastic job with coverage and interviews, shame that this has turned into a petty situation.
2012-11-28 19:03
1 reply
Seems to be a beef between two big egos. Lurpiss and Gonzo. Take these two out of the equation and you woudl have a different outcome.
2012-11-28 21:30
and i just bookmarked cadred a few weeks ago because of the great interviews richard lewis does, but with this attitude i can live without them, fuck cadred.
2012-11-28 19:03
we all know how it gonna end: nip wins mind sports, vg loses in the final for nip, na`vi loses all matchs, hltv.org "expert" users creating threads about how 1.6 players are better than source's players... na`vi players saying are not sure if will stay on csgo, hltv.org expert users creating threads about how cadred and their saucers are pathetic... blablablabla
2012-11-28 19:09
bad sad
2012-11-28 19:06
Lack of space?..haha. At least give us something believable.
2012-11-28 19:08
Kinda lame imo. FU Cadred O.o
2012-11-28 19:10
OMG i play source, and was a saucer, but this is absolute low point, what a shame. And mr.Lewis is big piece of looser essence, 100 kg of pure looserness. you cant save cadrerd its already dead P A T H E T I C! 8 letters for you lewis! Pathetic
2012-11-28 19:18
Lol, Before csgo when I played source, Id always visit cadred like, occasionally, if for some reason the ESEA forums were not talking about some europe matches or event I usually could get some info on cadred. Now since playing cs:go and finding out about hltv.org, I visit this site every single day. Should about sum it up no?
2012-11-28 19:20
Typical Gonzo.. the guy's a massive joke with the biggest of egos They dont care about the CS:G scene otherwise everyone would be welcomes, they just care about "1 upping" HLTV Personally id love it if u guys did NOT cover the LAN at all, no way they would get any kind of views. Thats the best way to highlight how inferior they are
2012-11-28 19:22
1 reply
what has gonzo to do with this??
2012-11-28 19:37
2 replies
i took a short look. one true comment in there: "my 18 month old niece could ask better questions in interviews than HLTV "journalists" anyway", said ono. true story. but the thing is, hltv "journalists", and i keep using "" because they are not, they are doing interviews just now and than. anyway, its better this way, because they have no clue "howto"
2012-11-28 22:07
1 reply
hope there will be demos..
2012-11-28 19:40
Lol, are they trollin? is this for real? somebody tell them they are humiliating themselves and the event will get aloot of negative attention, if any attention at all. what a loosers nest, better stay clear of it. the fail is strong with them.
2012-11-28 19:41
2 replies
1 reply
#686
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Canada xb0y
Spamming same link to every single post. How retarded you actually are? Are you like a spokesperson of cadred? If yes, then show your true identity.
2012-12-04 10:38
gl getting more then 5k with cadred
2012-11-28 19:48
When I saw e-mail adress in the first news about this event I expected dirty things like this.
2012-11-28 19:52
I for one will boycot any watching of this tournament (through cadred at least), as they boycott press I will only check on the outcome of matches via hltv.org and gamelux.nl
2012-11-28 19:53
2 replies
Well arent you the saviour of hltv....
2012-11-29 16:39
1 reply
thanks for noticing
2012-11-30 19:51
CS:GO suffers the most
2012-11-28 19:57
1 reply
+1
2012-11-28 20:03
cadred.org/News/Article/188212/ The article in response. Outlining in the last few paragraphs that HLTV.org have been given the option to work with Cadred to supply their regular coverage but without someone on site. It's all a game of words and you never know whos telling the truth....
2012-11-28 20:25
2 replies
We don’t see the sites in direct competition with each other as we both specialise in different areas. Can someone please tell me what Cadred specialises in that HLTV doesn't?
2012-11-28 21:08
1 reply
LoL, dota2, css, general good written articles about esports and the people behind it?
2012-11-28 21:22
its ppl like Richtard thats killin cs go.. fu
2012-11-28 20:25
"Finally, we offered to work directly with HLTV.org to assist them in offline coverage, which is something we have never done before with a “rival” website. They have declined this offer and we’re sure, if they choose to cover the event, it shall be up to their usual standard regardless of attendance. That offer still stands as we understand the interest this event has generated among the community." Is this true..?
2012-11-28 20:31
so pathetic...cze sux..not gonna follow cadred anymore
2012-11-28 20:45
I feel like this is high school. So stupid of them not letting you guys in.
2012-11-28 20:44
This is scandalous my dear!
2012-11-28 20:57
HardwareHeaven owned by Heaven Media =D nice
2012-11-28 20:57
Why are people blaming cadred for this? Its hltv.org`s fault to not tell heavenmedia about this before.. 2 days before the lan is way too late and thats not cadred to blame. I have both played source and 1.6 and i think both are great games. the hotel is probably strict and doesnt have many cheep rooms on their spare account 2 days before the event. Im not take any sides here and i love hltv.orgs coverage. U dont have to tell me that i am a sAucer if u get offended by this WonPaintSwitchers. peace out
2012-11-28 21:02
1 reply
Yea, not announcing the teams till 4 days before the event sure didn't have anything to do with us being out "late"..
2012-11-28 21:27
hehe own3d
2012-11-28 21:04
For me there is no Event :p :)
2012-11-28 21:10
Cadred 1 - 0 HLTV. Cadred has better userbase and Richard Lewis is very kind guy, giving his honest opinions unlike hltv users. Its always the same story when cadred has something over HLTV jelous people will start badmouthing them and that doesnt go both ways. Proove my point and tell Im Cadreboy, Cadrednoob or w/e. These two sites are Rivals, and Cadred happens to be the one pulling strings this time, butthurt hltv users just cant swallow their loss.
2012-11-28 21:13
4 replies
How ak.47.agent is doing ?
2012-11-28 21:13
Retard Lewdist detected
2012-11-28 21:14
You pretty much imply that this site's users are scum and then expect us to be better persons than you? Lol contradiction much. Go to Cadred and start badmouthing people there. See if they let it slide
2012-11-28 21:30
1 reply
This is the same guy who has been trolling on every topic past few days. Just ignore him.
2012-11-28 22:31
Finally, we offered to work directly with HLTV.org to assist them in offline coverage, which is something we have never done before with a “rival” website. They have declined this offer and we’re sure, if they choose to cover the event, it shall be up to their usual standard regardless of attendance. That offer still stands as we understand the interest this event has generated among the community. why no? :( cadred.org/News/Article/188212/
2012-11-28 21:12
8 replies
Please, their offer was: "Live updates from the event will be published through Esports Heaven, and please do not hesitate to get in touch if I can do anything to assist you in covering the event remotely." Basically meaning, "you can see things on Cadred", well sorry, but we are the leading CS site in the world, being the 2nd source of things is hardly satisfactory for us, we asked for access for 1 journalist for their event, nothing more, I do not see this as some crazy request.
2012-11-28 21:26
7 replies
Oh please you childish person.
2012-11-28 22:01
"if I can do anything to assist you" This sounds generous enough :)
2012-11-28 22:32
2 replies
^ This. Request something more timely, or at least have a polite discussion, don't slap their hand away like a child having a tantrum.
2012-11-28 22:35
really? Who knows if it is Lewis' genuineness
2012-11-29 11:06
Far enough then. This could have actually brought the scene a bit more together but oh well :) Both sides can be understood at some point
2012-11-28 22:53
What dooes it mean by by "Thru Esports Heaven", if he said he assists u in offline coverage, does it mean that u can cover but not post on your site?
2012-11-29 02:07
a joke of a statement
2012-11-29 17:09
No problem at all, sometimes this stuff will happen and I guess its because like you guys said Cadred is doing exclusive coverage so theyre just making up an excuse to not let anyone else in. Im sure you will still provide great coverage like you have over all these past years.
2012-11-28 21:29
1 reply
There is no exclusive coverage, that seems to be quite simply just untruthful. There are people from other communities covering live, they just booked their place earlier.
2012-11-28 21:57
Don't understand the article. Could have just said you wouldn't be covering the event because you wouldn't have anyone on site because of money/time constraints. Sucks you won't be there barbecue it turns out this is going to be a big event but you can't cover everything :)
2012-11-28 21:34
4 replies
Agreed. This is simply a case of asking too late, which as HLTV said is unavoidable for them, but at the same time its just too late, it's booked, other people are going to cover it. I believe cadred themselves are only sending 1 single journalist so this notion that they have some kind of mass exclusive rights is ridiculous. It's just one of those unfortunate things, there is no malice from cadred, but they can't deny other people who have already scheduled their attendance within an appropriate amount of time access to the event just to compensate for HLTV's late request in order to avoid a potential hissy fit. As you say HLTV should have apologised and just said for whatever reason it wasn't possible for them to be there, for them to stir up a shit storm is a little bit childish and pathetic. Anyway, let's draw a line under it and get on with things.
2012-11-28 21:49
1 reply
This.
2012-11-28 21:52
+1 This is funny shit :D Staff here throwing a fucking hissyfit over nuttin! FYI ppl (lets be honest here shall we, hltv fanfags) who r going to "boycott" the event just because no coverage here on hltv, ur actually the ones hurting the game grow :) Peace!
2012-11-28 21:50
1 reply
1+ and 2+ Yeah, says the huge defender of them all! Neat one Näätä! So the game wouldn't grow as good without Hltv user's watching it, you sayin? (; Don't act like you didn't.. Peace..ooh, mature one!
2012-11-29 17:38
cadred reviving 1.6 rofl
2012-11-28 21:39
I'll boycott this event and I suggest that everyone else do the same. Don't go on cadred.org, don't watch the livestream and don't tweet/talk about it. It is such a bad decision from cadred especially since the game is so new and we try to get bigger to compete with the big esports titles of these days: LoL, Dota2 and sc2. Shame on cadred.
2012-11-28 21:40
3 replies
Do you actually have any idea as to the potential reasons why cadred can't just accept the attendance of anyone who asks last minute willy nilly? If you honestly thing they have done this to be petty then you are just a complete moron.
2012-11-28 21:54
2 replies
You'd think Heaven Media could be more flexible given the exposure full-fledged coverage from HLTV.org would give them and their event. Press accreditation is not a bureaucratic mess. In most cases, it's putting names on a list and making sure they are accepted into the event as a person of the press. If it's actually a matter of space, I'm going to say the press area (if they even have one) is going to be a living hell to work in if they can't fit in one extra person. Heaven Media would not be involved in accommodating a HLTV.org representative (hotel, transportation, food etc), so it shouldn't be that hard. Either way, it's a shame because this affects not only us and Heaven Media, but readers and passionate followers as well.
2012-11-30 02:07
1 reply
In fairness have you seen the ridiculously small amount of space they have available?
2012-12-02 10:43
From cadred: "we offered to work directly with HLTV.org to assist them in offline coverage, which is something we have never done before with a “rival” website. They have declined this offer..." Typical HLTV cocky admins , dont worry you will be n1 cs site FOREVER ... shame on you tbh not on c adred -.-
2012-11-28 21:46
2 replies
^ This. Everyone is absolutely slating cadred having read only HLTV's post. Forming an opinion based on one side of an argument, nice one people...
2012-11-28 21:51
See Nomads post, not sure who to believe.
2012-11-28 22:12
I don't understand how this has been blown out of proportion. If this were a LAN and a team asked to attend say 2 weeks after the payment deadline, it would quite simply be too late, and it in no way would be seen as scandalous on behalf of the organisers. This is the same situation yet everyone is shitting bricks over it.
2012-11-28 22:00
4 replies
read Nomad comments above
2012-11-28 22:10
3 replies
I've read them already, what's your point?
2012-11-28 22:36
2 replies
maybe you have the same question like #400? hmm... pointless then forget about it
2012-11-28 22:40
1 reply
Don't know if 400 edited but there is no question there.. Nomad's comments hold no relevance, his defense is essentially that HLTV have limited funds etc. Which is perfectly true but has nothing to do with the point I'm making.
2012-11-29 10:03
Wow, hltv I am dissapoint. I am sure you guys are disappointed and angry at cadred being the main coverage site of the event but jesus man, get over it. Stop whining. By doing this you'll only achieve a negative image and reputation. Just get used to the situation. You didn't get invited, you can't always have what you want to. Now just do your best hosting a good online coverage, it is just healthy competition between two sites now. If you think you are better site for CS:GO than cadred, show it. Talking big doesn't help your site being better, it is the actions that make the difference.
2012-11-28 22:20
2 replies
+1 amen
2012-11-29 04:22
#504
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United Kingdom krucial
Well said man.
2012-11-29 10:41
Watch out for the JBW, Gump m8.
2012-11-28 22:38
3 replies
u know I aint scared to murk a man
2012-11-28 22:48
2 replies
Yeah, fam. Man move to mans and man'a get marked, blud! 'Get me?!
2012-11-28 23:07
1 reply
alr8 don't push it
2012-11-28 23:09
Maybe you can ask some team manager or somebody else to provide you with the inside info. For example HeatoN will be there with NiP right ?
2012-11-28 22:50
Don't really know where to begin.. lol. I would start for the people who actually thinks that this situation is HLTV.org's fault. lol, you guys are completely clueless. Last Sunday, Mind eSports Prague had the total of 4 teams confirmed to their event, and by saying last Sunday, is pretty much a week prior to the event. So, if an event which supposes to have 16 teams, only has 4 teams one week prior to the event, was a smart choice booking hotel/flights/press accreditation to it ? Was really a smart choice to book a place in the FIVE STAR HOTEL or spend money in flights for an event that had 4 teams confirmed ? cmon, you people can't be that dumb. The announcement of the increased prize pool came yesterday and obviously attracted the attention of more teams and when in 2 days, 4 more teams got announced (yet still far away from the 16 teams mark), HLTV.org decided to actually attended the event to cover it. It's HLTV.org's fault that the lack of informations about the event (prize pool increased, not even talking about the groups and stuff which haven't been released yet) and the failing on announcing the teams that are attending it were published within a week to the event itself ? If my website were in the same position, I would obviously be pissed because I had to prepare my things on the last hour and probably pay more for everything (hotel and flights) because a really bad organization and informations. Anyway, I really doubt that this decision comes from Heaven Media itself. Why ? How in earth an eSports event organization would deny the entrance of the best eSports coverage website in terms of CS:GO ? That's like signing a death sentence all the way. Who's going to promote the sponsors ? Who's going to put people talking about the event ? Who's going to deliver a kickass coverage ? Meaning, no HLTV.org is a major loss not only for the audience but for the event sponsors itself because they get less exposure which they could have more if HLTV.org were onsite. Not even talking about killing the event for the next years but putting the sponsors in a strange position for possible next events is really bad for eSports in general. I do believe that this decision comes entirely from the cadred administration, which puts them in the very possible bottom that they could ever been. And I did read their statement also, which I find hilarious seeing they acting like victims and say "we did our best to please everyone". The fact that "they can't act like kings just because they think they are the best on the field" is just stupid because it's indeed a fact, HLTV.org is obviously the best on covering Counter-Strike events. Denining their entrance with the excuse "there's no space for you" makes it even more like "LOL, seriously?" when we are talking about an event that is going to take place in a FIVE STAR HOTEL, which I'm sure, there's enough places to put people somewhere else. To finish, this situation doesn't really surprises me. The so called "premiere of eSports" clearly don't have a clue on how to run an event or how to cover it. I'm pretty sure their coverage with "their only journalist" will be worse of their usual coverage on other events from other games, and probably sure that, if HLTV.org decides to not follow it (which I doubt), probably no infos will be released during those days. This is a sad day for eSports just because a bunch of people thinked that they are the best on what they do. News flash mates: You aren't. Also quite funny to see that some of those people are acting exact the same as some people that we've got here in Portugal. Their end was obvious: they dissapeared from the scene. Hoping to see that from cadred in a couple of months/years. Thank you.
2012-11-28 22:53
10 replies
I just laugh at such wall of texts which obtain to a totally futile topic.
2012-11-28 23:07
You really don't have a clue do you. It's a pain in the ass for HLTV that cadred announced teams late due to their lack of funding, but that doesn't make it cadred's fault does it you moron. How heaven media choose to run their own event is entirely up to them, and it clearly hasn't caused problems for the other journalists attending, from the Czech Republic, France, Russia. It's just unfortunate for HLTV that they could only enquire last minute and by that time it was simply too late, as it would been for anyone applying this late, not just HLTV. I won't go further into your idiocy because I just can't be arsed, but to sum up; you're a dumbass.
2012-11-29 10:08
8 replies
Look "Anyway, I really doubt that this decision comes from Heaven Media itself. Why ? How in earth an eSports event organization would deny the entrance of the best eSports coverage website in terms of CS:GO ? That's like signing a death sentence all the way. " I think we are talking about the boss from cadred not the entire Heaven Media.
2012-11-29 11:03
1 reply
It doesn't matter whether it's from Heaven Media or Cadred, the outcome would be exactly the same, because nobody - not Cadred, Heaven Media, or Mr. T himself can just book extra slots into a 5 star hotel at the last second. We're not talking about a little extra floor space in a warehouse here. Do people here not understand how real life works.
2012-11-29 12:07
So its acceptable to you that an event that only has 4 teams announced and no info more than the prize pot less than a week prior to the event? yep, its indeed unfortunate to HLTV and the others that a FIVE STAR HOTEL doesn't really have space for a couple of journalists when however, they have for players. And I'm the one your calling a moron.. At least make some sense. About that CZ, France and Russia journalists you say, "We have worked with the biggest e-sports portal in the Czech Republic and have talked about getting Russian and French language streams in place to broaden the scope of the event. " at least read what your masters even write.
2012-11-29 18:00
5 replies
I believe french and russian streams will in fact be taking place. And when a hotel is housing an event, firstly there's a set number of rooms (which mostly will have been taken by the players), utilities and space set aside for the event, then there's other potential issues; max capacity within certain areas due to fire safety regulations, potential insurance and other overheads. It's not as simple as booking an extra room. The agreement with the hotel will have set aside the number of rooms and amount of space required well before the event is to take place, that gives both parties a clear understanding, it's called professionalism. You don't book a table at a restaurant for 4 and show up with 6 do you, you complete and utter ignoramus. Staff from Cadred have stated that had HLTV actually approached them within a reasonable amount of time they would have happily divulged further information, such as the teams that have been sent invites, teams likely to attend etc. However HLTV made no contact whatsoever until the very last minute. Other then that what more do you want from Cadred. Finally, it doesn't matter if I think their format of announcing the event the way they have is acceptable, it's nothing to do with me, it's their event, they've organised it, they've got the prize pot together, they can do whatever the hell they want. And it hasn't caused problems for the other people covering the event clearly, because the available slots for journalists and people going to cover the event have obviously been taken. So in summary - yes, yes you are a moron. Edit: Just read an update on Cadred's post containing the actual email sent to HLTV, and to me it seems perfectly reasonable, clear, and apologetic. You might think otherwise seeing as you're a complete fool though. "Hi Luis, Sorry for not getting back to Peter this morning, I’ve only just managed to get you an answer based on the venue. I’m afraid due to space issues at the hotel we won’t be able to accommodate you on site, unfortunately this is outside of our control as we are fitting in as a part of the Prague Mind Sports Festival and as such do not have as much venue flexibility as we would normally have at an event. Live updates from the event will be published through Esports Heaven, and please do not hesitate to get in touch if I can do anything to assist you in covering the event remotely."
2012-11-29 18:27
4 replies
Sorry, I stopped reading here: "max capacity within certain areas due to fire safety regulations.." LOLOLOLOL. First time in more than 10 years at gaming that I see someone actually talking about "fire regulations" :D:D Yet again, you are trying to convince people that a five star hotel doesn't have space, probably one of the biggest builidings there, doesn't simply have room for journalists. (not couting with the 2 guys that will be there from cadred and that CZ website). The best evidence from this will be the photos that probably will comeout from the venue and surely everyone will see that's just bullshit. "Staff from Cadred have stated that had HLTV actually approached them within a reasonable amount of time they would have happily divulged further information, such as the teams that have been sent invites, teams likely to attend etc." Considering that HLTV has been posted information (teams list, the only thing that is coming out) pretty much ahead of cadred, why would they contact them anyway ? LOL. They contacted them to get a press acrredtion, got denied. Ofc, it's their event and they can do whatever they want with it. That's why major events announce IMPORTANT INFORMATIONS way early in order to get people (players, staff, audience, media) prepared for it. "because the available slots for journalists and people going to cover the event have obviously been taken." Yes, 2 people. Will be sweet. I'm a proud moron to think that you are being simply ridiculous, considering that you can't make ANY sense. I would even bet that you never went to any major event in your live or (going wild now) you never attended any gaming event in your life, even as spectator. Speaking in spectator, can spectators enter the event ? Is it for free or people need to pay ? That's right, we don't know. Acceptable. *EDIT for your EDIT* That was a polite answer, at least that from someone who's representing Heaven Media. Apart from thinking that cadred are a bunch of retards, I do expect some professionalism when it comes to answering questions when representing a company like Heaven Media. That isn't a news for me. It was just simply the niciest way to say no.
2012-11-29 18:37
3 replies
You honestly don't think a hotel has to consider things like insurance and fire regulations when housing a large amount of people within certain areas? Or even just within the building at all...?! Christ almighty. I'm not going to reply to any of your other ridiculous statements beyond that since that first one alone proves your complete lack of intellect beyond all reasonable doubt. Plus trying to read your horrible grammar and spelling is burning my eyeballs. P.S: We shouldn't expect the same level of professionalism from HLTV I guess seeing as in response to that polite email they immediately went and wrote an article stating "*sniff sniff* Cadred won't let us attend because they feel threatened by how super good and awesome we are *cry* *cry* waaaah". The 4 year old maturity of the average HLTV community member must be rubbing off on the staff.
2012-11-29 19:25
2 replies
I explained you like 10 different facts, all of them quite logical in every possible way. Your best shot was "fire regulations." Either you a fireman or you just don't know anything about eSports. In the end they have the fact of not knowning anything about it. End of converstaion.
2012-11-29 19:40
1 reply
"They were posting the teams that were attending so why should they have to contact them? LOL". Sorry, that's a logical point? You're dumb even by HLTV community standards, and believe me that's saying something.
2012-11-29 20:38
cadred > all
2012-11-28 23:11
What a desperate move by cadred, that's really disgusting.
2012-11-28 23:48
I feel it is gonna be a fail tournament
2012-11-28 23:59
Can we register 5 players, make a team lose 16-0 everytime but do coverage ? I hear there is spots available for competitors...
2012-11-29 00:05
4 replies
nice idea :)
2012-11-29 01:55
Genius, m8.
2012-11-29 01:59
uh ha =D
2012-11-29 09:56
HLTV allstar lineup =D
2012-11-29 14:29
HLTV has being the heart of the CS community. This is a terrible move my Heaven Media. Hope it works the way they wanted, because otherwise, they'd have a funny flop and the whole HLTV community to laugh at it.
2012-11-29 00:06
So pack your ass and go to Prague? There are plenty of hotels.. Is that hard to go there as spectator and ask players for some interviews? You stated that you are #1 for coverage, so players will be happy to talk with you.. Making big deal from mouse..
2012-11-29 00:52
2 replies
Not that spectators will have a venue access like press does, right?
2012-11-29 00:58
Don't you understand that it was never because of the hotel?
2012-11-29 01:22
LOL DEADRED I will do my part as a CS fan and won't count this or any other events from Media Heaven as 'serious'. once a joke, always a joke. have fun, you won't have more than the usual 10 guys posting on your website.
2012-11-29 01:14
7 replies
Your part as a CS supporter is to not support CS, nice one. I'm pretty sure cadred can live without the odd extra 12 year old like yourself posting on their website tbh.
2012-11-29 10:11
6 replies
they are like cockroaches, they live from scratches.
2012-11-29 12:09
5 replies
Do you mean they live in cracks? Otherwise what you said makes no sense whatsoever, at least not in english.
2012-11-29 12:17
4 replies
what I meant is that they usually do really bad, I don't think that will change.
2012-11-29 12:18
3 replies
Maybe you meant they live off scraps then. Looks like they seem to be doing ok to me though. HLTV and Cadred are both very good sites in terms of coverage, it's just a shame people have to be childish and form some kind of ridiculously strong allegiance and bias to one or the other (mostly this is the HLTV community tbh). I swear some people on HLTV would sooner die for HLTV than their own family, it's incredibly odd.
2012-11-29 12:24
2 replies
actually cadred is way too biased to start with, so it is an unfrendly place for the 1.6 community (huge pirce of GO players atm). second of all there's the fat guy who runs it, he hates our guts. I think getting rid of Ricky Blewis could help them.
2012-11-29 12:27
1 reply
I don't think he has anything against HLTV as an eSports coverage site. However it's understandable that he's probably not that fond of it's community based on the ridiculous things people write about him on here. He seems like a nice guy to me, people have just formed yet another bias against him due to their alliance with HLTV. And from my experience whilst cadred traditionally has alot of css players, a large portion of them either still play 1.6 casually or used to play it before moving to css, and they all still enjoy watching high profile 1.6 and always have. They just like counter-strike, 1.6, css and GO. HLTV is very similar apart from a strange hatred of css from many people.
2012-11-29 12:49
I still expect HLTV to cover it though, they're pro
2012-11-29 01:37
Wow lurpiss shut the fuck up, we all know hltv is an extremely deticated website to gaming and is by far one of the best. You don't have to a arrogant prick about it......zzzzz
2012-11-29 01:47
Sad, Mirraa and Nix0n are putting their soul into this :/ but i thought u ppl had enough sponsors to travel and cover?
2012-11-29 02:04
1 reply
2012-11-29 07:11
omg this event is going to fail without HLTV.org f*** this shitty tournament
2012-11-29 02:24
I can confirm all bad things being said about Richard Lewis. He removes comments that argument against his own on the forum, he removes contact information in statements from new clans which have players that he dont like, he only writes articles or includes players on toplists that he likes. I have met him at LAN, and he is a completely different person. If you do not agree with him, or cross him in any way, he will missuse his power as the appointed owner of cadred.org by Heaven Media. It´s the worlds biggest joke, that someone is paying this indoctrinating bastard money for his questionable work.. I stumbled across his name on a site that is frequently used by blackhat hackers, wether or not he is being subjected to online attacks I don't know. pastebin.com/DRDwuajb The paste only shows his name and the number 187 twice. Apparently 187 is the policecode for murder in the United States.
2012-11-29 02:35
6 replies
"I can confirm all bad things being said about Richard Lewis. He removes comments that argument against his own on the forum, he removes contact information in statements from new clans which have players that he dont like, he only writes articles or includes players on toplists that he likes." How does everything above have anything to do that hes a different person at LAN?
2012-11-29 04:29
5 replies
Because he was basically licking my rim, rolling me joints and whatnot at LAN, asking me about gaming and whatever. Being generally interested and friendly towards me like a normal person. After LAN I comment critically on some cadred feature, and I get messaged by gonzo accusing me for being the right hand of Ritch(a person that I dont even speak to, nor like) and that im only active on the site to spew his abuse. I was argumenting for my oppinion, yet my comments where deleted and I was permbanned off of the site. I commented on the quality of their feature "Play of the Week" which mostly included unknown players and everyday normal ecofrags.
2012-11-29 14:12
4 replies
why are you even badmouthing ritch that much. its not like he fcked ur mom or u over.. i dont get why ppl hate ritch that much, all he does is that he proclaims himself better than most. and with all due respect, he of all should have the last word, afterall he made thousands of dollars playing a worthless league that was broadcasting on tv live. and his results should speak for himself. im tired of ppl badmouthing players who've achieved something. since when are people who achieved goals in their lives not able to speak up for themselves? i mean, its ppl like u c0b that make people not wanna go pro. i myself have played 1.6 in a serious lvl and i would like to proclaim what i accomplished. theres nothing wrong with it, i dont see why ppl should bother hating someone because somebody mentions that hes better than others? really, i dont see the reasoning behind ur butthurt. to be fair i do enjoy ritch proclaiming himself and let him do that, doesnt hurt me at all nor bother me. he did achieve something, is the last word to be said.
2012-11-30 11:40
3 replies
What the fuck are you talking about? He barely mentioned 'ritch', his whole post was talking about Richard Lewis.
2012-12-01 11:26
1 reply
"You are right, but when it comes down to it. You are not really in a position to point fingers at anyone, when you yourself are one of the most selfproclaiming disrespectfull little cunts I have ever encountered in my life" Was aimed to ritch, and I disagreed. I replied in the wrong msg and I'm sorry for that. :)
2012-12-01 17:17
again. None of the things you mention are the cause of me not likeing ritch...
2012-12-03 22:14
Hmm the smell of $$ is very strong here!!
2012-11-29 04:09
#477
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Pakistan $Bills$
Bad for the game.
2012-11-29 04:25
I would love to knock slurrpis out @ LAN
2012-11-29 05:19
2 replies
he would probably smash you open
2012-11-29 10:01
1 reply
xDD
2012-11-30 16:12
Ok so HLTV basicly started this. Then they argument started falling apart so they are trying to get out of it something in any way. HLTV so desperate. Why the fuck insted of crying like a little kids just do your own event instead of leeching others ? Oh wait HLTVs 20K own event. What a madnes it will never happen. Its like a wanting count to 5 from an autistic kid.
2012-11-29 07:37
1 reply
Yeah i see dead cadred giving 20K to tournament. Its about sponsors, and im sure that wouldnt be a big problem for hltv. But still, hltv just provides coverage
2012-11-30 11:14
cry cry cry :((((((( go home losers
2012-11-29 08:52
It's Mind Sports loss, no1 will watch this event. Hell, i barely keep in touch with cs:go anyway. :) Crappy game.
2012-11-29 09:22
1 reply
indeed only matches of cs:go i ever "watched" was the wall of text from every final posted here on hltv.
2012-11-29 16:21
even this has more posts than the FINAL NiP vs VG epic win \o/
2012-11-29 10:05
EAD CACRED AND HLTV
2012-11-29 10:29
#505
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United Kingdom krucial
Poor Journalism from HLTV.
2012-11-29 10:48
7 replies
Yes, how dare we report on these facts!
2012-11-29 11:42
5 replies
*twisted facts (to make this site look like a victim, amongst the mostly retarded userbase, and to me it seems adminbase aswell) Tbh u guys should just delete this newspost and shadaaaaap, only making hltv look bad :D Ofc ur not gonna, but hey it was just a thought!
2012-11-29 14:38
4 replies
What facts are twisted?
2012-11-29 14:45
3 replies
How bout the actual tittle of the newspost just to name one? (denied, just to point it out....) lol
2012-11-29 14:53
2 replies
But we were not allowed in, how is that not denied entrance?
2012-11-29 14:53
1 reply
U did not receive press accreditation, totally different than denied axx, no? I cba to get into reasons WHY u didnt obtain it, as u made it clear: u guys (lack of funding or whatever) were late! -,-
2012-11-29 15:04
Fuck off.
2012-11-30 02:12
how much $$$? ffs.
2012-11-29 11:50
Naturally, HLTV have to report this. Every single user on the site would ask why there were no coverage onsite (or at all) from the event. This is an explanation that needs to be told. Unfortunately, Cadred have a right to exclusive coverage, but I don't see any good coming from it. I can accept them not being able to find a hotel room for HLTV, but not to accommodate them press-passes, that I don't understand. It must be in everyone's interest that the event gets exposure. This is not the way forward for eSports. Terrible situation, but a good thing that this is not swept under a rug on some server. We need transparency.
2012-11-29 11:51
1 reply
Every Word I agree.
2012-11-30 06:03
:|
2012-11-29 12:10
time is money. pro.coverage too ? and soon there will be advertising between each round, not just for popcorn obviously :p
2012-11-29 12:26
well fu admins for deletiny my post
2012-11-29 12:28
1 reply
This is your first post in this thread..
2012-11-29 14:56
#527
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Belgium v1ncNtt
Did you asked for a sign-ups list or did you just waited on them to post a list on their website ?
2012-11-29 12:31
4 replies
We posted about most teams attending before Cadred did..
2012-11-29 14:46
3 replies
Sad thing is that u didnt post news about event when it was announced. But lets talk only about things which bring us to the light not things we have fucked up right ?
2012-11-29 15:09
2 replies
Uhm, we posted as soon as the first team was signed, and even let our users know how they could sign up as well hltv.org/news/9537-verygames-to-attend-m.. - what more do you want exactly?
2012-11-29 16:15
1 reply
Thats exactly what im talking about... News about first signed team to an event which u posted nothing about...
2012-11-29 16:36
LOL
2012-11-29 16:09
I have a question do fragbite, esplanet etc. too denied entry?
2012-11-29 16:30
1 reply
Good one.
2012-11-29 18:21
What's up with people bringing age in to this discussion :D You know that doesn't make you look like an adult. I probably won't watch these games (and I know I'm not alone) unless there's a stream link or "Hot match" link on hltv.org's front page. It's not that I'm boycotting the tournament, it's just too hard to remember there's a tournament going unless it's mentioned here.
2012-11-29 19:01
4 replies
I like you.
2012-11-30 01:54
2 replies
I love you.
2012-11-30 02:11
1 reply
The love goes both ways.
2012-11-30 02:13
#643
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Brazil FuRiouSzZ
Same thought here... Back in time, i'd say that you were forgetting GotFrag.com (good times, by the way, when gotfrag was alive cs was a good thing to care about) But nowadays... if it isn't in HLTV.org, it isn't happening.
2012-11-30 14:32
#594
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Bulgaria goatse
Ofc .. the small brother trying to fight the big brother by brute force but the big brother is more mature and he will not do the same move but he will teach his little brother how he must behave, haha
2012-11-29 19:38
I'm not going to say much, except who would listen to richard lewis, its not like he hasn't been caught lying and threatening ppl and its not like he hasn't ever been kicked out of an event before. no never
2012-11-30 02:10
i really dont like cadred but for once i think they're right. by publishing this news post you guys are pulling a complete dickmove that makes you look really self-righteous -- which, by the way, isnt just a look, it's a truth and every journalist outside of your site knows it, but by doing so, the people without insight (aka 99% of your database) buys it and make you guys out as the heroes. this is completely your own fault. if you ask the organizers three days before an event if you can attend it, you cant just expect to be able to go. rather make sure which teams that actually will go before hand and make a decision based on that. even if some teams might've not known themselves until very late, you'd have to take a gamble whether you think it's worth going there or not. but of course, almighty hltv.org wants to keep their steady grip on the cs news scene and trash other websites and whatnot as often as there's an opportunity for it. it's disgusting that more people doesn't know about the "other" side of your site. with that being said, i do appreciate all the work you've put down into this site over the years, you've been number one for quite a while now. i just wish you wouldn't have to be so cocky about it. also it's hilarious that lurppis (i think it was, or some other staff member) said that you like competition amongst news sites and wish there were more since it motivates you to be better. that's just plain hypocracy when, as mentioned above, you do your best to trash competing sites, whether it be by an own news post like this or by not giving source credit to other sites when you should of and yourselves being a total bitch about it when other sites doesnt source you etc etc. anyway, didnt think this would become a long rant, ive barely even been involved in the community since CS:GO took over so i dont really care at all anymore but i guess cadred deserves to be defended when they're innocent for once. oh and almost forgot, inb4 lame trying-to-be-smartass comment from mr. kovanen.
2012-11-30 05:09
5 replies
this is completely your own fault. if you ask the organizers three days before an event if you can attend it A event which releases participants three days before, how can you expect someone to ask for a pass. HLTV.org never went to a lan with low teams in attendance. Only fault being here is HeavenMedia who were releasing this information late instead it should have done by a week earlier.
2012-11-30 08:13
4 replies
Stop lying. there were top teams announced way sgo than 3 days before event. Verygames was the first announced team before 2 weeks. NIP were officialy announced also way before 3 days... not to mention that im pretty sure that hltv knew it even before that they will be there. + many other teams, i mentioned only "top" teams. So again u failed kid. GG QQ and no RE
2012-11-30 09:39
3 replies
Seriously fucker hltv.org/news/9624-nip-confirm-mind-spor.. hltv.org/news/9628-esc-off-to-prague-20k.. Reason yourself then reply to me. HLTV will never go to an event to cover it if there is only single topteam( VeryGames) #fuckingsaucerofcrapreddynasty
2012-11-30 13:01
2 replies
SO nip as a second top team (ESC arent top CSGO team) were officialy confirmed 26. Lets count u Onepaintswitcher. 26 27 28 29 30 1. I see thats 3 days... Not to mention that it was well known that they will atend it before 26. Oh u one paint switchers are so incredibly stupid :D
2012-11-30 13:12
1 reply
What? "...After learning that the Czech tournament would feature some of the best CS:GO teams in the scene, we contacted Heaven Media on Tuesday evening with a view to securing press accreditation for one of our journalists. Their response came on Wednesday afternoon: we were told that due to "space issues" at the five-star Corinthia hotel..." This newspost were written on 28th... The announcement of NiP and ESC participation for the event took place respectively on 26th and 27th... HLTV made contact with the organizers one day after NiP's announcement and the very same day ESC were announced on 26th - how can that be wrong? - They will of course ensure themselves that the respective teams show up (with an official statement). Wouldn't you when it comes to sending a co-worker on a trip to another country, which costs a lot money?
2012-11-30 14:09
What a crap of bullshit. HLTV.org is a JOKE from now on.
2012-11-30 11:19
3 replies
Uh huh, surely we are the joke for not being allowed in, and then being so bold as to point this out to our readers, how dare we!
2012-11-30 13:02
1 reply
Obviously late news, but anyways. I'm going to use an other melody this time, because i may have been a little harsh. I can't see how Richard Lewis, the most honest and open human being i have ever met, could do such a thing. There MUST be some other gay things behind the scenes here. The story just don't make sense. The worst part is, and i just have to point this out. I'm not a Cadred-fanboy of any kind. It seems to me that you guys came out as the loosing part here, after crying about something that can happen to anyone really. I know him well enough to say that he didn't mean it to be personal at all, and he would have done the same with other competitive Esport sites.
2012-12-12 01:00
retards gonna retard
2012-11-30 13:56
cadred idiots
2012-11-30 13:36
I love it XD
2012-11-30 14:37
Hltv is my world of esport. fuck the rest. :) i dnt knw who the hell is cadred or richard is? and dnt even care. :D
2012-11-30 19:09
After watching the video tour on Cadred, it's quite clear that their comments about limited space were totally genuine.
2012-12-01 11:30
1 reply
are they playing the tournament in a toilet ?
2012-12-10 21:20
Shit happens...
2012-12-02 03:46
0 room event, aka not enough space event in a esport genre that need all the help and support by major gaming portals avaiable the biggest and most valuable being hltv. this smell very bad, kind of not shocking knowing who is behind it. lol
2012-12-02 16:34
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